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Former U.S. Senator Chris Dodd gets a new gig: President of the Motion Picture Association of America.

Another big day for ICE: It announced 678 drug and cartel arrests in Project Southern Tempest, which lasted from December, 2010 through February, 2011.

Christine Aguilera did not have a good night. Her boyfriend was arrested for DUI and she spent the night in custody, because police thought she was too drunk to be released. She won't face any criminal charges, but her record will show the arrest for "public intoxication."

Ohio is now second to Texas for executions. Three more were scheduled today, bringing Ohio's total this year (and it's only March) to ten. [More...]

The House passed a funding bill today, cutting 4 billion from the budget and avoiding a partial shutdown for two weeks. The White House wanted to cut 8 billion and have a 4 to 8 week stopgap.

If you are thinking of getting a Verizon i-Phone, be forewarned. Verizon announced today there will be no unlimited data plans.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Sometimes I do get my wish (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:14:23 PM EST
    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will launch a presidential 'exploratory' campaign this week, becoming the first big-name GOP candidate to make a formal step towards the White House.

    Goody!

    The crazies (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by jbindc on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:21:23 PM EST
    have officially taken over

    An unborn child has been named as a legislative witness in Ohio during discussions of a unique bill that proposes to outlaw abortions after the first heartbeat can be medically detected.

    The bill is being backed by Faith2Action, an anti-abortion group. Their in-utero witness will be the youngest ever to come before the house. The fetus will be just 9 weeks old.

    When the state Right-to-Life Committee doesn't endorse something like this, you know there's something hinky.

    So Are They going to Let Them Have Privledges... (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:47:40 PM EST
    ... like driving, voting, drinking 7 months earlier, or it just a cheap ploy by the moron brigade ?

    What I wish they would start doing, is a register of the father's, and make it public, see how many right to lifers and republicans in general are arm twisting some girl into an abortion.  Once guy's are treated like choice-less bafoons in public, this whole shame will die.

    I still believe the people pushing the hardest are the ones who have had, or had pressured someone to get, an abortion.  

    Like the mega gay haters who are gay, self hatred, the power only the Bible can dole out.

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    Perhaps they will (none / 0) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:33:52 PM EST
    secure the services of John Edwards to channel the unborn child.

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    Borat or Sacha ? Some One Please Tell Me the Truth (none / 0) (#6)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:57:15 PM EST

    Are you the real deal or just an extremely dedicated actor, because the above statement just could not be a real statement, no one is that f'en ____.  I feel like everyday I am a dupe in Borat's Fun House after reading your posts.

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    Hey, it was just a suggestion. (none / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 06:46:33 PM EST


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    The Question Remains (none / 0) (#23)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 08:17:05 PM EST


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    sigh... (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 08:32:29 PM EST
    Do you remember John Edwards getting rich in suits in which he claimed to know what the unborn child was experiencing??

    Now do you get my gentle jab?

    Sigh... no fun when you have to explain'em.

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    No, PPJ (none / 0) (#31)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:45:58 AM EST
    but then successful lawyers only bother some folks when they aren't making money for a corporation, as God intended lawyers to do, I suppose.

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    If you're talking about this (none / 0) (#33)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:57:32 AM EST
    then you've demonstrated again how you aren't good at handling reality:

    In 1985, Edwards represented a five-year-old child born with cerebral palsy - a child whose mother's doctor did not choose to perform an immediate Caesarean delivery when a fetal monitor showed she was in distress. Edwards won a $6.5 million verdict for his client, but five weeks later, the presiding judge sustained the verdict, but overturned the award on grounds that it was "excessive" and that it appeared "to have been given under the influence of passion and prejudice," adding that in his opinion "the evidence was insufficient to support the verdict."[35] He offered the plaintiffs $3.25 million, half of the jury's award, but the child's family appealed the case and received $4.25 million in a settlement.[35] Winning this case established the North Carolina precedent of physician and hospital liability for failing to determine if the patient understood the risks of a particular procedure.[36]


    Click or Wiki Me

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    all this time I thought you were talking about (none / 0) (#39)
    by CST on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 02:01:06 PM EST
    this John Edward

    Should have seen the "S"

    Now that would have made sense.  I mean, if he can talk to dead people he should be able to talk to the unborn too right?

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    When They Can't Get You With a Real Charge... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:40:22 PM EST
    ... the good old public intoxication.  Not a hard charge to fight, just a pain in the A.
    _______

    Executions, Texas is actually fairly low on Executions per capita.  People tend to forget that there are 24M people here, double Ohio's population and then some.  Per capita, we are on the lower end of average.

    I will say this, I am personally against it, but being a Wisconsin yankeee and moving here, I understand it.  The criminals here are just ruthless, in WI they take your money, maybe smack you around, down here, man, they will beat you into unconsciousness, then rape you grandma for fun.  The hatred is deep.  Maybe it's the relentless heat, the political discourse, the wild west settlers, I honestly don't know.  The criminals here would eat the criminals back home for lunch and still have an appetite.

    I have no moral qualms about the death penalty, just have issues with killing an innocent person.  Plus someone has to develop and operate the killing machines and society should not be fixed on destructing life, it's not healthy, and it permeates into all facets of society.  Ditto for bombs and bullets, if we spent the energy and coin on peace, as we do on killing, this place would be a lot funner.

    Well said... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 05:10:27 PM EST
    I think the more ruthless the justice, the more ruthless the criminal.

    And don't mind old Jim...he's just got some warped views.  But I'm convinced he's the Real McCoy, and he kinda grows on ya:)

    Deep down he's a good egg...maybe one day still I'll get to play some cards with him, I keep sh*tting the bed on his invites to Tunica and beyond.

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    Big tournament now going (none / 0) (#14)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 06:52:23 PM EST
    on at the Gold Strike, kdog. Come on down and we'll beat up on the 22 year old pros.... A bud of mine cashed out #1 money about a week ago at Harrah's WSOP regional and has announced he will now tour the circuit.

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    my big issue (none / 0) (#9)
    by CST on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 05:20:43 PM EST
    with the death penalty is that mistakes happen, they are bound to happen.  And with the death penatly, there's no "get out of jail free" if you make a mistake.

    It's too little too late.

    Plus I haven't seen any proof that it accomplishes anything.  Considering that all the statistics out there show states with the death penalty have higher murder rates than states with no death penalty.

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    Somehow I get this feeling (none / 0) (#19)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:10:47 PM EST
    that you aren't looking to make Texas a long term deal.

    As for "relentless heat" I guess you haven't ran into a "Blue Norther" just yet.

    One other bit of wisdom.

    When it snows or sleets.... just stay home. No one can drive on it.

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    Texas has a high murder rate (none / 0) (#32)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:50:42 AM EST
    that their death penalty doesn't seem to bring down, despite execution after execution.

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    Murder Rate (none / 0) (#37)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 01:49:17 PM EST
    We are 17th, not high IMO.

    Funny thing, when I looked up the murder rates, all red states at the top, except Michigan.

    Coincidence ?

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    And Michigan (none / 0) (#41)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 02:21:55 PM EST
    Got rid of the death penalty in 1847.

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    where do you see michigan at the top? (none / 0) (#42)
    by CST on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 03:24:20 PM EST
    According to this (census) as of 2008 (not including D.C.) it goes:

    Louisiana
    Mississippi/Illinois tied for 2nd
    Maryland
    Alabama
    Missouri
    New Mexico
    Georgia
    Arizona
    South Carolina

    in the top 10.  Michigan is hovering just above the national average.

    I'm pretty sure every single one of these states has the death penalty, although I will admit I only checked the obvious blue states, except New Mexico which got rid of theirs in 2009 after these statistics were compilated.

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    Jim (none / 0) (#36)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 01:45:57 PM EST
    Been here since June 26, 1998.  A couple weeks after I graduated college.

    I love it here, the relentless heat is pleasurable compared to the never ending deep freeze of January and February.

    My only real beef is the politics outside Houston and Austin.  I never lived somewhere with two totally conflicting ideologies are in such close proximity.  From the Blue Cities to the Red Rural of Texas in less than 30 mins.

    Back home the dynamic was much closer, different shades of purple, never this Blue/Red hatred.  Then again it's been 13 years and someone elected Scott Walker.  So home sweet home may be a myth, going up this summer, worried than the place idealize in my mind has turned into a Fox News Wasteland.

    Anyways, I am here in Texas until the cowgirls pull chocks, then I may re-evaluate the situation.  

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    Sounds like you (none / 0) (#43)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 03:32:28 PM EST
    are in MetroTexas as opposed to Texas.

    Very similar in a lot of states. Think MadisonWisconsin vs Wisconsin. ChicagoIllinois vs Illinois. AtlantaGeorgia vs Georgia. MemphisNashvilleKnoxvilleTennessee vs Tennessee. DCVirginia vs Virgina. SeattleWashinton vs Washington.

    The differences between these areas are so great that it is obvious they need to be split off into self governing areas. The citizens on both sides are being ill served.

    BTW - Harry S explored my gentle poke re channeling and provided full details. He is my faithful Huckleberry and is always thrilled to provide details and any needed corrections.

    ;-)

    BTW - You should also remember that Texas was formed by some Tennesseans who couldn't pay their bills.

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    I can see law enforcement (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 10:57:09 PM EST
    not permitting Ms. Aguilar (sp) to drive the vehicle. But no phone call for a pick up?

    You know, I support (none / 0) (#28)
    by sj on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 11:15:49 PM EST
    arresting a driver that's intoxicated and who is a danger to him/herself and others.  Get them off the street.  I wish they'd be aggressive about getting dangerous cell phone talkers off the street, also.

    But the passengers?  Really?

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    I just got talked into (none / 0) (#7)
    by CST on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 04:57:30 PM EST
    getting my first landline, since it's cheaper than not getting a landline with our internet/cable.

    I wonder if I'll start being polled...

    For some reason this makes me feel old.

    You'll get polled (none / 0) (#12)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 06:31:06 PM EST
    now by those companies using automated dialing systems, such as Rasmussen (it's illegal to call cell phone numbers while using automated dialing).  However, Pew Research Center, which does not use automated dialing, can, and does, use cell phone numbers as well as land lines.  You can always refuse, though, CST.   ;-)  
    Link

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    I was push polled twice (none / 0) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:03:14 PM EST
    last year.

    My revenge is simple. I lie to'em.

    I also stuff the "Return Postage Paid" envelope with what they have sent me and send it back.

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    I have been known (none / 0) (#18)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:09:30 PM EST
    to return "postage paid" envelopes from organizations that have annoyed me, with the heaviest pieces of cardboard I can stuff in the envelope, along with their literature.  Let them pay for the overweight postage.  It's petty, but it's sometimes satisfying.  Although, to be brutally honest, Jim, I suspect that those organizations that you consider annoying, and those that I consider annoying, are very, very different entities.  ;-)

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    Oh, I dunno (2.00 / 1) (#20)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:18:12 PM EST
    I find Repubs and Demos to be Equal Opportunity Annoyers.

    Ya gotta remember that I am a Social Liberal with a bit of Libertarian thrown in.

    You see, I always knew that the Repubs weren't looking out for me. It was around '68 when I figured out the Demos weren't either.

    So far I have decided that, on the average, the Repubs help on the money side, the Demos on the social side, although the Left with their demands for No Smoking Anyplace and No Circumcision (San Fran's latest)are tilting the scales.......

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    I don't Buy It, Jim. (none / 0) (#38)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 01:57:19 PM EST
    I'm pretty sure you have never voted D, so I guess the Libertarian is the part that pulls the lever.

    The fact that you believe republicans are better on the money front is proof you don't like reality.  Unless lowering taxes during war is proof "the Repubs help on the money side".

    If smoking, and circumcision in one city, are your tipping points, I would say your mind is already made up.  That is the kind of thinking that left us craven to Bush for two years.

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    Scott, I'm 72 plus years old (none / 0) (#44)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 03:46:35 PM EST
    and voted Demo until 1968.

    And yes, the Repubs, with their FIT rate cuts were and are definitely better for me when it comes to money. May not be true for you. (Definitely not true when you consider the Social Security you will probably never collect.)

    I believe that we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

    The point I was trying to make is that the Right, which is basically Repubs is worried over who we sleep with and the Left, which is basically Demos, is worried over if we smoke and where and whether or not we should circumcise our male children.

    Both have their collective noses about 40 feet into places in our lives that they have no right or reason, besides a desire to rule us, to be.

    I call myself a Social Liberal because I support Gay Rights, Minority Rights, drug reform, etc. I have voted Repub because the Demos have convinced me they won't defend the country and with out a country everything else is just talk.  

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    So...Vietnam & 1968 & the Democrats? (none / 0) (#45)
    by christinep on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:38:22 PM EST
    If so, things have changed...especially in the area of who learned the most about national interests and the genuine protection thereof.

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    Not really (none / 0) (#46)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:54:49 PM EST
    When the fight starts the only acceptable result is to win.

    And we can argue over whether we should have, etc., etc. forever. That you and I might have done things differently is mox nix.

    Fact is we did.

    Looking at what is happening now... I see it as a natural progression of Obama's foreign policy.

    I call it: "1929 Redux."

    WWIV can rescue Obama's place in history as WWII did FDR.

    IF we get very, very lucky.

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    Yeah - you and your "social liberal" ... (none / 0) (#47)
    by Yman on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:04:31 PM EST
    WWIV can rescue Obama's place in history as WWII did FDR.

    IF we get very, very lucky.

    ... comrades ... always thinking about how "lucky" we would be to be involved in another world-wide war.

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    He's a social liberal (none / 0) (#48)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:16:53 PM EST
    who thinks that there are no moderate Democrats, believes Fox News is a reliable source of information, and has been bemoaning the results of the 2008 election since 12:00:30 AM, 11/05/2008.

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    Re moderate Democrats (none / 0) (#50)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:46:50 AM EST
    See Wisconsin... or wherever they are currently hiding.

    ;-)

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    PPJ, what will you find (none / 0) (#55)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 12:23:55 PM EST
    to complain about Democrats and their lack of moderation once the fuss in WI gets settled?

    Without watching Fox News to find out, that's your real challenge, isn't it?

    :-)

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    The good citizens of WI (none / 0) (#56)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 12:39:46 PM EST
    don't think that the Democrats you're talking about are extremists:

    Just as damning for Walker, a majority also said they sided with the AWOL Senate Democrats, who fled the state to deny the senate the quorum necessary to advance the budget repair bill.

    That's from a Rasmussen Poll, BTW.

    Click or TPM Me

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    The voters can toss the Guv out (none / 0) (#57)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:50:53 PM EST
    and redo all the nasties that a democratically elected Repub legislature has put in place.

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    And your point is? (none / 0) (#60)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 08:26:58 PM EST


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    Yep, and his blog ... (none / 0) (#54)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 10:57:08 AM EST
    I call myself a Social Liberal because I support Gay Rights, Minority Rights, drug reform, etc.

    ... is just chock full of posts on these issues.

    Or not ...

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    Actually we have been engaged in (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:45:30 AM EST
    WWIV for years and years.

    You just won't admit it. And neither will Obama. It would require him to do something.

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    Thanks as always for the feedback :-) (none / 0) (#51)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 08:26:20 AM EST


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    Admit (none / 0) (#52)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 08:27:00 AM EST
    You won't admit that Fox News is a propaganda channel, PPJ.

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    Do you still beat your wife? (none / 0) (#59)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:52:49 PM EST


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    Propaganda (none / 0) (#63)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 09:36:55 PM EST
    like substituting CA protests with palm trees in the background for WI ones:

    It is Tobin's commitment to clean journalism, though, that makes the "Wisconsin Palm Tree" problematic. While O'Reilly is clearly innocent of the charge of "lying," a journalist like Tobin operates at a much higher standard, and it's fair to wonder if he would have been comfortable with having that footage playing over his reporting about Wisconsin.

    While the intent may not have been to mislead, more care could have been taken to ensure that no one could have been misled. There was ample footage of the Wisconsin protesters, but in choosing to use other footage, O'Reilly's producers could easily have location-stamped it (the way they did the Wisconsin clips). These are choices that might not occur to the producers of an opinion show, but certainly would to a news editor.

    Click or Mediate Me

    No charge for the education, PPJ

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    Palm trees? (none / 0) (#64)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:05:34 AM EST
    I guess you have never stayed at one of those cold weather Holiday Inns called "Holidomes." Big pool in the center, warm as toast, room service pool side.....

    You need to get out more.

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    Except that the climate in WI (none / 0) (#65)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:07:26 AM EST
    doesn't allow for palm trees, and the video is from Sacramento, not Madison.

    You need to get out more.

    This is your brain on Fox News.

    Any questions?


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    You have never been to a Holidome? (none / 0) (#67)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:10:39 AM EST
    LOL

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    That's not the point (none / 0) (#68)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:18:54 AM EST
    the point is that Fox News ran footage of a CA protest that didn't take place in front of a Holidome in Madison, WI, especially since the nearest one is in Fond Du Lac, WI.

    Always with the excuses for Fox News, PPJ, why is that?

    ;-)

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    Do they have holidomes in CA? (none / 0) (#72)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:58:54 AM EST


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    I dunno, I thought you were the (none / 0) (#77)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 03:10:08 PM EST
    world traveler around here.

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    Thanks (none / 0) (#53)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 10:41:30 AM EST
    Actually we have been engaged in WWIV for years and years.

    ... for proving my point.

    BTW - Just out of curiosity (and a desire for a good laugh at the winger mindset), what was WWIII?

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    The Cold War was WW3 (none / 0) (#58)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:51:58 PM EST
    No charge for the education.

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    Kinda figured that (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 08:29:03 PM EST
    The Cold War being a fave among the wingers, and all.  They do love to hate them some communists.

    BTW - "Education" ...

    ... good one.

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    Yeah those Commies (none / 0) (#66)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:08:56 AM EST
    never killed millions, seized whole countries, put up the Berlin Wall... threatened to bury us.

    Just Agrarian Reformers.

    BTW - Glad to see that you have returned to your roots.

    ;-)

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    Psssstttt ... Jimmy (none / 0) (#69)
    by Yman on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 10:27:18 AM EST
    Good, old-fashioned capitalists have done the same on an even larger scale.  I just think it's funny how you wingers always need an enemy to focus on ... real or imagined.  Fear is a strong motivator, though.

    BTW - No charge for the education.

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    Yeah, we focused on (none / 0) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 12:01:53 PM EST
    commies for quite a few years.

    Some of us even died watching the skies for Soviet missiles/bombers and in the proxy wars.

    But since you never served I am sure you're not interested in that part of history.

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    Some of "us" ?!? (none / 0) (#76)
    by Yman on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 12:12:14 PM EST
    Point remains, JimmyJoe.  Lot more people killed by capitalists than communists.  But I guess that doesn't fit into your red herring mold, so just ignore it.

    BTW - Gonna lump yourself in with the guys who died just because you "served in naval aviation", huh?

    High school acquaintance was an orderly for many year.

    Used to say he was "in medicine".

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    He likes to use the 1st person plural (none / 0) (#78)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 03:16:32 PM EST
    without defining who "we" and "us" are.

    Naval Aviation has changed since PPJ served, BTW.

    Click or Fly Me(NSFW)

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    "... returned to your roots" (none / 0) (#70)
    by Yman on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 10:32:02 AM EST
    Not sure what you mean by "returned to your roots", Jimmy, but if that was supposed to suggest I'm a closet commie, you're a little mixed up.  I'm a capitalist - own my own business, employees, etc.  But, hey ...

    ... you wingers do love to hate you some commies ...

    ... even imaginary ones.

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    From a now deceased Archbishop (none / 0) (#71)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 10:46:18 AM EST
    of São Paulo, Brazil:

    When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why are the poor hungry, they called me a communist.

    --Dom Helder Camara



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    From Ronald Regan (none / 0) (#73)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:59:46 AM EST
    Trust but verify.

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    Yes, PPJ (none / 0) (#75)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 12:06:22 PM EST
    trust is earned by how easily a claim can be verified.

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    That's a fair price (none / 0) (#61)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 08:27:40 PM EST
    based on what it's worth   ;-)

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    Okay, that's funny (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 08:47:49 PM EST
    I'm copying you.

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    I love my LL (none / 0) (#15)
    by nycstray on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 06:53:59 PM EST
    @ 5 bucks a month :) I immediately put my number on the DNCL and it seems to be working. I have gotten a couple poll calls from the UC, which I didn't mind participating in. It's been  almost a yr and I think it really has only been about 2.

    Just realized, I prob won't get political calls too much, I'm registered Green, lol!~

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    We have to (none / 0) (#16)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:00:57 PM EST
    have a land line.  We live so far out in the boonies, there is little or no cell reception here.  I only turn my cell phone on when I go "down the mountain" into "civilization," where I can get decent reception.

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    If I move up to the mountain (none / 0) (#22)
    by nycstray on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 08:08:27 PM EST
    I'll be in the same boat.

    With the LL, I was able to switch my cell phone to the new '2 buck a day when you use it' plan ATT has. Let's just say I'm saving $$$ between the 2 since I work at home :)

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    I thought (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 05:16:19 AM EST
    about going all cell but it's too expensive and the signal just isn't all that reliable even if you aren't out in the "boonies" so to speak.

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    honestly (none / 0) (#34)
    by CST on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:17:01 AM EST
    I never use all my minutes and I don't exactly have a generous plan.  I really am not big on talking on the phone.  So having a cell phone was always sufficient, there really aren't too many places in MA it won't work, and in those places I wouldn't have my landline anyway.

    Plus free national long-distance is nice since none of my college friends are from MA.

    But hey, if comcast wants to knock a couple bucks off of my cable bill to give me faster internet and a landline, I'm more than happy to take comcast's money :)

    I will be the only person I know under 30 with a landline.  It's basically irrelevant technology for us.  I don't even want to give people the number, since one of the things I like about cell phones is the ease of ignoring them.

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    I think landlines (none / 0) (#35)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:21:50 AM EST
    are only irrelevant to people your age who are single. I could see just having a cell phone in my 20's if that was available back then simply because I was never home and when I was home it was always after 7:00 p.m. when the talking was free. Anyway, once you have children and a family and all, cell phones really don't work that well because you burn up tons of hours being put on hold by dentist's and doctor's offices etc. I have a friend who has gone all cell and she has three kids and tons of minutes and always either goes over her minutes or says that she can't talk to you because she's out of minutes. The price of a house phone would be way cheaper than going over her minutes all the time. Besides, I'm one that only wants to be contacted by on my cell phone by my family or certain friends. I am very choosy as to who has my cell phone number. I can also see you never using that landline that you have.

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    by CST on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 02:03:30 PM EST
    "single" you mean "childless" than yes, you certainly have a point.  I hadn't really thought of all that.

    Also I am on a family plan, so even if I were to go over my "share" of minutes, it's not a big deal.

    I just want to know if I can put the landline ringer on silent :)  Otherwise I have a feeling I will be leaving it off the hook.

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    For those (none / 0) (#10)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 05:25:53 PM EST
    that might be interested as to whether it's an out of control train wreck or just off the wall entertainment, the man with the Adonis DNA has opened a twitter account but said nothing @charliesheen

    What's the rationale for public ... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Yes2Truth on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 06:29:42 PM EST

    intoxication laws? Why not criminalize stupidity in public or being mean spirited?

    The Department of Interior (none / 0) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 07:38:37 PM EST
    approved the first Gulf of Mexico deep water well since the Deepwater Horizon blow for Noble Energy, Inc.  The well, 70 miles SW of Venice, LA, was started just four days before the blow and has been green-lighted to start anew just short of the first anniversary of this tragedy.

    Noble Energy, Inc. is operating the well and holds a 23.5 percent stake.  However, Noble operators should benefit from the experiences of its major stakeholder, BP, with its 46.5 percent interest.  It is similarly re-assuring to know that the Department of Interior, in its permitting, must have implemented all the recommendations of the President's Commission and has apparently anticipated the results of other investigations still in progress.

    Since watching 'Inside Job' (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 01, 2011 at 08:54:51 PM EST
    I have been so friggin cranky, all day.  Someone is an apologizer for Obama and it just sets my hair on fire today.  I have viewed a few fellow Democrats as latte sipping humus snacking jerks of the first order in the last 24 hours :)  What to do?  Don't have a lick of chocolate in the house either.  I better get some tomorrow while chocolate is still affordable.  God I'm so mad.  The trailer says you'll be spitting with rage or some such thing, but I've been lied to by movie trailers so many times who takes them seriously :)?

    Really (none / 0) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 05:18:10 AM EST
    you don't even have to watch to get mad. Just look at the actions of the Obama administration. There's enough there to last quite a while.

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