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Jake the Bachelor goes on four hometown dates tonight. After that, it's "24" and "Life Unexpected."

Olympics coverage is gearing up. Check out former Bachelorette winner Jesse Csincsak's new show, Beyond the Medal.

What's on your agenda tonight? This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    NJ Gays to Dems-We're just not that (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by caseyOR on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:58:56 PM EST
    into you. Finally, someone in the LGBT community stands up to those duplicitous, two-timing Democrats and says "enough."

    Garden State Equality, the New Jersey LGBT Rights organization, has responded to the backstabbing Democrats who voted against same-sex marriage last month. They've turned off the money-faucet. No more qu**r $$$ to the Democratic Party and its organizations. Oh, and no more volunteers.

    Maybe this will catch on. Maybe LGBT groups and individuals across the land will Just Say NO to the Democrats. Maybe that will spread to other groups, too. Maybe the unions will take a harder line with the Dems. Maybe. We'll see.

    Just saw the 1001 statues (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 12:47:27 AM EST
    At Sanjusangen-do tmple. Next stop is Kyoto National Museum featuring emperor's gifts to Hapsburgs. Small world.
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    Okay (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 10:10:02 AM EST
    So I'm headed out to the zoo to see if the pigs have grown wings.

    Mr. Cheeto makes small admission  (but only brave enough to do it in an obscure comment) that Hillary Supporters may have gotten a raw deal on his site during the primaries:

    And I quote:

    I swear, those primary wars gave us some of the whiniest people ever. And really, if you want to be honest, the only crowd that had any real reason to gripe was the Hillary crowd.

    A link (but only to his comment).  His is the second comment at this link.

    Irony rears its ugly head again, this time from someone who was really king of perpetuating false rumors against Clinton.

    What, you mean he doesn't say (none / 0) (#51)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 09:41:09 PM EST
    why Hillary supporters had a "reason to gripe". Seems Mr. Cheeto still has a loong way to go.

    BTW, when is somebody going to write that book. Perhaps Hillary will after she's done with being SOS.

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    3 minutes till Damages (none / 0) (#1)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 08:58:43 PM EST
    But I let it go for a while and Tivo it so I don't have to watch the commercials.

    Didn't quite get something near the end (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 10:46:03 PM EST
    In Ellen's sister's bag. Calling kdog!

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    crack and a (none / 0) (#17)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:32:26 AM EST
    crack pipe.

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    wasn't sure if it was that or meth (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 08:24:55 AM EST
    not up on my pipe technology ;-)

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    LOL... (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 11:25:09 AM EST
    quite the rep I've got around here...y'all should send me to schools to talk to kids instead of those dumb-arse D.A.R.E. cops!

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    I kid. You are fun to tease. (none / 0) (#49)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 07:54:21 PM EST
    I have that on tivo too (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 09:02:07 PM EST
    forgot all about it.

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    I did too until a little while ago (none / 0) (#3)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 09:04:23 PM EST
    Gave myself a nice little surprise.

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    Anyone affected by the Toyota recall? (none / 0) (#4)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 09:13:22 PM EST
    I have a RAV4, but not the model year affected. Still, I have seen the videos of the repairs they do to the accelerator, and I think I would worry more about a mechanic in a hurry messing with my gas pedal than the off chance my car freaks out. I'm suspicious this 'fix' is a placebo, and the problem is really in the computer or the electronics. Is it just me? I'd love to think I'm just being paranoid.

    From day one (none / 0) (#5)
    by nycstray on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 09:48:52 PM EST
    I've thought it was the system (computer etc) not physical. But that's just my take from the news interviews and I'm a non-driver. I am worried that my mom drives a Pirus (sp?) though . . . .

    This recall is reminding me of the Pet Food one and many others . . . . .

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    It's spelled Prius. :) (none / 0) (#9)
    by caseyOR on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:19:08 PM EST
    I have a 2007 Corolla. That year is not part of the recall, but I've heard and read that the accelerator problems were first reported to Toyota starting in 2007.

    I put my floor mat in the trunk, just in case. I , too, think the problem is in the software. D*mned computers.

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    2007 Corolla (none / 0) (#13)
    by sumac on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 12:14:18 AM EST
    I have a 2007 Corolla and have already had the computer replaced (fortunately under warranty). A few months later, it started acting funny - right turn signal would not stop flashing when I would use the breaks and then the car would either get stuck in 2nd gear or just shut down - not too dangerous in that I had to be stopping for this to occur. Took it in to find out that the right turn signal wiring was faulty - but the fact that the car would just shut down because of this does not give me great confidence in my new computer.

    You might want to have yours checked.

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    I 'love' reading things like this (none / 0) (#21)
    by nycstray on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 09:29:12 AM EST
    State Farm said something in 2007

    I hope this 2003 is a typo:

    NHTSA received complaints about acceleration problems in Toyota vehicles as early as 2003, and congressional investigators are looking into whether the government missed warning signs of the problems.


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    Hmm, what if Sarah palin wrote on her (none / 0) (#7)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 10:46:29 PM EST
    hand for the express purpose of dominating a news cycle.

    Wonder who carried the story first. If it was Drudge, Politico, Breitbart, etc., then it's obviously a set-up.

    Diabolical (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 08:27:55 AM EST
    the smoking gun would be if the other hand says 'write on other hand - dominate news cycle'

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    I had the same thought (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 11:32:20 AM EST
    She is pretty adept at getting a rise out of the Left. And exploiting it.

    Those who think that ridicule is a good weapon against Palin aren't thinking. Historically, ridicule, of the most petty, personal and demeaning kind, has been used as a -- in fact the -- major weapon to deny women the vote and discourage even the most gifted and qualified women from seeking office. It has been and still is the sexist tool of choice.

    It is for that reason, not because Palin deserves special treatment or because Palin shouldn't or can't be criticized legitmately as a political player, that the Left and Democrats should be very careful about HOW and for what reasons they criticize.

    People who suggest that a man wouldn't be treated so gingerly are forgetting that men, white men, weren't denied the vote for most of our history nor has prejudice, lack of respect and a refusal to take citizens of their gender seriously contributed to their under-representation in our legislature and kept them from the presidency.

    Because of a history of bigotry and prejudice, the Left in general, and most African Americans in particular, would be rightfully up in arms if demeaning ridicule was used as a major tactic against a Black male candidate. It is for exactly the same valid reasons that many women are disturbed when they see this tactic, used historically to deny women political rights, used by people who they thought were their allies in correcting those historical injustices.

    The facts are this -- Palin is a larger threat to the Republicans than to the Democrats. She has no chance of becoming president. But, her far right fan base has a good chance of causing big trouble in the Republican ranks.

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    I disagree with the double (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:50:37 PM EST
    standard you advocate.

    Criticizing Palin's intelligence and knowledge are not only fair game but critical.....Presidential candidates don't get a bye on these issues....

    In terms of ridicule, Tina Fey did that and more to Palin--and it was very effective.....So some may be offended, and two of the commentators on yesterday's Palin thread said they would vote for her apparently to spite the Democrats in between a taunt to Palin critics to get a womb, but most except those already committed to Palin will consider the critique.....

    Political ridicule works....as long as it is not on a sexist basis.....or an attack on her family.  

    You make the comparsion to a Black male candidate taking harsh critism....Obama certainly took all kinds of personal criticism that was not labeled racist....he was a show horse, he was just someone who read the teleprompter well....I did not see the Palin apologists here complaining about that--they still heap it on at every turn.  Sure, racially charged, or sexually charged, attacks will backfire....But we're not talking about that--unless you consider any sharp attack on her character, intelligence or knowledge as inherently sexist--and I reject that formulation.

    As to Palin's future consider this:

    "If the primaries were this year, I suspect she'd be nominated," a senior adviser to one of Sarah Palin's potential rivals confides.  It's easy to see why: no one who's thinking of running beats the enthusiasm she generates among Republican activists. But there is more to the case for Palin than just the confluence of her personality and a vacuum within the Republican Party: there is a method to her management of her public image. It strongly hints that she has pretty much decided to run for president in 2012, unless something knocks her out of the race; it is more organized and structured that it appears; and it is something that Republican insiders, in particular, will ignore at their peril.

    When you say that Palin has no chance, you say what many said about Reagan.

     

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    Sorry I missed this discussion earlier (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 08:13:25 PM EST
    Should have checked back.

    Cawaltz yesterday posted a link to some disgusting and sexist comments (not at this blog)  about Palin, that I agree are way over the line. I totally agree with cawaltz and esmense that Dems and libs have already proved themselves hypocrites on sexism and gender-bashing Palin certainly reinforces it.

    That said, I agree with MKS that gender neutral derision is not only natural when presented with such a target, but politically effective. Where is Dan Quayle these days? I don't feel any worse making fun of Palins politics and intellect than I did quoting Quayleisms 20 years ago. I just cannot see her as Everywoman. True, women are not as well represented in politics as we should be, but there have been enough prominent woman politicians that we do not have to be so sensitive to stuff that is not gender based.

    I think and hope I have been consistent on that point here. I have spoken up when I thought Palin was getting gender-bashed, or when it was gender-neutral but still came across as beating a baby seal.  I think she is beyond the baby seal stage now, and fair game for anything I would say about a man.

    Anyway, just my two cents.

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    Hey MK, (none / 0) (#29)
    by jondee on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:32:22 PM EST
    OT but, if you get the chance, there's a great little article on-line by Bill Peschal about the literary flame war that went on between Edgar Masters (Darrow's old law partner) and Carl Sandburg over Lincoln's legacy. After reading it, Im torn between wanting to seek out a copy of Master's Lincoln the Man and being afraid to read it. Masters' grandfather btw, was a partner of Herndon.

    More grist for the mill.

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    Thanks, I'll check it out (none / 0) (#34)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:21:03 PM EST
    The more human Lincoln is the more I like him....

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    Someone said that the difference (none / 0) (#37)
    by jondee on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:42:17 PM EST
    between Darrow and Masters was that Darrow hated mankind and loved his fellow man and Masters loved mankind, but hated his fellow man.

    I still think Spoon River Anthology is a wonderful book, though.

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    There is a difference between harsh (none / 0) (#30)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:50:51 PM EST
    criticism and personal, demeaning and stereotyped ridicule -- and you well know it. Photoshopped images of Obama as a Witch Doctor are over the line in a way that they would not be for a white male candidate. Steele sometimes acts in ways that obviously irritate other Republicans but they are careful in how they publicly react and how they present their criticisms -- and so are Democrats. Responsible people are very aware of the history of racism and rightfully try hard to make sure their criticisms can't be interpreted as racially motivated.

    So why can't we ask that a similar sensitivity apply to criticism of political women, who, as a group, regardless of party, were long denied political rights and still endure inequality in the political arena? (While inequality obviously still exists, African Americans, I might point out, enjoy representation in the Congress that is less than, but close to, their representation in the population as a whole. Women, on the other hand, still come no where near to enjoying equal representation. More significant is the fact that research suggests that the hostile and demeaning environment that women face in the political arena is a big obstacle to equality, because it discourages women from even throwing their hat in the ring.)

    Frankly, I think the real reason why people are sometimes unwilling to be as sensitive to women's concerns about sexism in the political realm is because they don't take the history of political injustice and inequality that women have experienced and continue to experience seriously.

    And that, I think, is a pretty serious failing in anyone who calls themself "progressive."


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    This is easy (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:18:28 PM EST
    Witchdoctor--out, it is obviously a racist stereotype.

    Just words, only good at teleprompter--okay, not to my liking or fair, but not racial either.

    As to Palin:

    Comments about appearance--out

    Terms such as bimbo, airhead--out

    Comments about family--out, for any number of reasons....

    Comments about her "not knowing anything" (Steve Schmidt's words)--okay

    Not knowing there were two Koreas--fine.

    Gender neutral terms of ineptitude, such as stupid, inane, vapid--okay even though tough....She wants to be commander-in-chief (not a professor at a lecturn) after all....

    Gender neutral descriptions of her character such as Steve Schmidt's statement she has trouble telling the truth--fine, we get to challenge a Presidential candidate's character....

    What I don't get is how some feminists, and thank god not too many, defend Palin to the hilt.  She, the one of winking at a Vice Presidential debate.  I thought Palin's cutesy pie stuff sent feminism back 20 years....

    Some may believe that sexism and misogyny are so overwhelming that it is imperative that a woman, and a woman no matter her views, be elected President.....Bill actually voiced (articulated not supported) this idea by saying that for some there is no greater issue than sexism and the only way to effectively combat that is to elect a woman...and that for them that issue predominates over all others.  I don't agree--but I think that debate is an honest one that may get more to the core of Palin support.

    Just leave out gender and racial epithets and stereotyping....It is not that hard...Keep it gender neutral....

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    No liberal woman suggests that it is (none / 0) (#44)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 05:51:47 PM EST
    imperative that ANY woman be elected President. Suggesting that liberals, in the cause of furthering political equality and ameliorating injustice, have a special responsibility to be sensitive to the issue of sexism, and to the reality that the speech and tactics they use against a political opponent should not be of a nature that allows that opponent to plausibly make the case that they are sexist hypocrites, in no way suggests support for Palin. Nor does pointing out that such speech and tactics may, in fact, only encourage the use of sexist abuse against other women, including much more qualified women and women who share their political goals.

    The fact is, most liberal women know that Palin's tactics and actions -- most especially, ditching her responsibilities as an office holder as soon as it became apparent the celebrity her VP run provided offered an opportunity to cash in on bigger and easier money -- can only make the struggle genuinely committed and qualified women face, to be taken and treated seriously and with respect, much harder.

    Which is why some of us find it so frustrating to see our fellow liberals give in to the temptation to act like jackasses when it comes to Ms. Palin.

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    It is absurd to compare Palin to Reagan (none / 0) (#31)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:00:52 PM EST
    A more apt comparison in terms of political impact (not experience and background) is to Goldwater in 1964. Like Goldwater, Palin represents the potential that the party's most extreme element will lead it to disaster in the general election. She would be lucky to get 1/3rd of the vote in the general.

    Goldwater was the Far Right's champion as it began its ultimately successful attempt to take over the Republican party. Palin, if she gets the nomination, will be its swan song.

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    One can hope (none / 0) (#33)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:19:57 PM EST
    Goldwater was hard-right libertarian (none / 0) (#35)
    by jondee on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:38:24 PM EST
    who always gave rather short-shrift to the not-as-organized-then fundamentalist crowd; Reagan, like Palin, directly appealed to the fundamentalists and made them an integral part of his coalition.

    The Reagan-Palin equation isnt as absurd as you think.

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    It is about the connection to the gut (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:42:31 PM EST
    of the right wingers....Palin makes that connection better than anyone since Reagan....

    Fighting her by making polite policy critiques is a losing strategy....

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    THEY sure as heck-fire (none / 0) (#41)
    by jondee on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 05:01:44 PM EST
    aren't going to do it.

    Unless they've completely given up burglary, bug-planting, red-satan-and-muslim-baiting, behind-the-scenes negotiation sabotaging, taping phone calls etc etc

    You have to take the high-low-high road with these people.

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    But the Right Wingers can't (none / 0) (#47)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 06:33:32 PM EST
    carry a national election.

    The woman has no support among independents and she certainly won't be attracting left of center voters.

    Republicans only win the Presidency when they can appear relatively reasonable to people in the middle and attract some Democratic votes.

    Reagan's geniality and media polish made it hard for the label of "extreme" to stick to him. Bush II, as extreme as he was when he governed, ran as a genial moderate who wouldn't offer a huge difference from the relatively conservative Democratic administration that was just leaving power. His signature issue in the 2000 campaign wasn't anything controversial or red meat -- it was education.

    Much of Palin's appeal to her base is her willingness to indulge in red meat politicking. Which is a great strategy for success in the right wing media -- but a bad strategy for gaining trust and being taken seriously in a general election.

    I still think she has more interest in making money in the media than running for President. But if she does go for the nomination and gets it, it will be the best kind of political luck for Obama.  

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    Reagan was considered a successful (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:54:19 PM EST
    governor of a state that's economy was larger than most nations. More important, the people who propelled him into politics and supported his ambitions for years before he became President were among the nations corporate elite -- the most important players in defense, energy, finance, real estate, etc. I lived in California during Reagan's reign, my uncle served in his administration, and when he ran for President I was working on the advertising account of one of the country's then largest defense contractors, and biggest Reagan supporters.

    Reagan was the candidate of Big Money.

    Palin is not and never will be.

    Get real.

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    Reagan (5.00 / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 05:05:35 PM EST
    Was also a famous B-movie actor and familiar to many who may not have cared about policy from his TV commercials - very glamorous to most people.  He also got his conservative cred by being one of the few in Hollywood to support the blacklisting.

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    Palin shares Reagan's ability to talk to (none / 0) (#45)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 06:13:14 PM EST
    and inspire enthusiasm in the Republican's far right base. But not his ability to inspire support from its most important establishment backers. The people that the party really serves.

    That's why she has the potential to tear the party apart while Reagan did not.

    If she gets the nomination it will because there was a successful revolt by the far right grass roots, especially the religious right. But, the far right grass roots can't carry a general election.

    In the 90s, in Washington State, where I live, the economic crazies and Christian Right extremists managed to finally take control of the party and nominate a woman who represented the same people in the state party that Palin represents in the national party. Her run was a disaster that the state Republican party has not yet recovered from.

    I expect that if Palin got the nomination, the Republicans would see the same result on a national level.

    And I am sure that establishment Republicans have exactly the same expectation.

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    Was that Linda Smith? (none / 0) (#46)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 06:20:12 PM EST
    Wasn't she a Mormon?

    Your scenario is certainly a rational one...but we are dealing with fundamentally irrational people....

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    No, it was Ellen Craswell (none / 0) (#48)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 06:53:45 PM EST
    I'm not sure exactly what branch of religion Craswell practiced, but, she listed God at the top of her campaign's organizational chart and vowed to hire only "wise and Godly people" as aides if she won the race.

    After the election she and some of her equally radical supporters left the Republican party for a fringe party that's name escapes me at the moment, something like the American Patriot Holier Than Thou party.

    More mainstream, less religious Republicans were so spooked by the Craswell crowd's successful domination of the state party aparatus that they started voting Libertarian and still do.

    Washington isn't nearly as "blue" a state as it appears. Thanks to Craswell we are one of the few places in the nation where the Libertarian party actually qualifies as a major party, getting enough votes to deny the Republicans success in most statewide elections.

    As for Linda Smith, she was a piece of work. A fiscal, no tax nutcase but nowhere near as extreme as Craswell. So that tells you something about how far right the Craswell crowd was.

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    100k for one speech (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by jondee on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 05:16:49 PM EST
    was put up by the disenfranchised little people (whose voices she hears?)

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    Yes (none / 0) (#39)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:52:03 PM EST
    While he had hard-right attitudes about labor unions, the UN, and foreign policy, Goldwater was also vocal opponent of the religious right on issues such as abortion, gay rights, and the role of religion in public life.

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    I think she would get 45% (none / 0) (#36)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:41:05 PM EST
    The Republicans would hold their nose and vote for her, and she would get a few Independents who just want to tweak Obama supporters....But, yes, she would lose by a lopsided margin--but not by as much as one might think.....

    There is actually recent polling on this....

    And the Grandee Republicans are realists and may be willing to let the Palinistas have their (losing) day in the sun (someone's got to take the loss) getting ready to run Huntsman in 2016, whom Obama smartly exiled to China...  

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    I should add that the Left can afford (none / 0) (#26)
    by esmense on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 11:36:22 AM EST
    to take the high road because Palin is more of a problem for her own party than for the Democrats. But, the Democrats can't afford to be seen as hypocritical on the issue of sexism.

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    This blurb I think outlines (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:10:16 PM EST
    how Palin could get the nomination:

    Not a single other Republican presidential candidate can build a crowd like Palin, can run against something like Palin (be it Washington, the media, the McCain campaign or Obama); no one speaks to the resentment/aspirational conservatives like she does; no one's life has better exemplified the way they perceive their struggle against the elite.  We like to think about presidential primaries in paradigms, but candidates who fit with the times often find ways to completely subvert established paradigms.

    Your view of Palin is the same view of her as conventional Republican insiders like McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt, who said btw that she did not even know that there were two Koreas and was basically a compulsive liar ......Stuff like that does not matter to the majority of Republican primary voters....

    And the Republican grandees, who would back Osama bin Laden if he would cut their taxes, will be astute enough to not get in the way of the Palinistas....and bank on controlling her later as they did with W.

     

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    Btd have you seen the Boener letter? (none / 0) (#8)
    by Salo on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:04:11 PM EST
    It's the next stage in stripping the Senate of reconciliation. Obama to cave in in12 hours.

    Life Unexpected (none / 0) (#10)
    by caseyOR on Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 11:28:47 PM EST
    This show takes place in Portland, although it is shot in Vancouver, B.C. The opening shots and many of the outdoors shots are of Portland, though. I love seeing all our bridges and the "Made In Oregon" sign and the Eastbank Esplanade on TV.

    "Leverage", which does not take place in Portland, is actually shot here. It is not all that rare to see Timothy Hutton riding his bike around town.

    It's a kick, isn't it? I feel the same (none / 0) (#12)
    by oldpro on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 12:01:36 AM EST
    way whenever I see An Officer and a Gentleman, shot in my home town.  A hot cast (Richard Gere and Debra Winger) usually ate dinner in local restaurants who did a land office business throughout the shooting!

    The settings are all so familiar...have hardly changed at all...

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    I think it's the best (none / 0) (#14)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 12:45:05 AM EST
    new show of the season. All four characgers, Kate, Luxe, Ryan and Baze are really good, as are Baze's friends. The writing is good too. I just wonder how long they can play on the same theme.

    Never been to Portland, but it looks like a nice place.

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    Portland's great (none / 0) (#16)
    by caseyOR on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:30:03 AM EST
    Not a perfect place, but still pretty great. It is a generally nice town. People are friendly; the scenery is lush; great food scene, both restaurants and food carts. And, drive an hour in one direction and you're in the mountains. Drive an hour in the other direction and you're at the ocean.

    Economically things are hard, both in Portland and throughout Oregon. The recently passed tax measures saved us from heading over the same cliff California is tumbling down, thank goodness, but we are in for a very long slog, very long.

    Still it is really pretty.

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    When did this show appear? Sounds like something (none / 0) (#18)
    by Angel on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 07:40:41 AM EST
    I might like to watch if I'm not too late in finding it.  

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    The White House sends a Valentine (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 11:04:32 AM EST
     to David Brooks and he, in turn, forwards the love on to us (cf. NYT op ed).  Why Brooks, instead of, say, Bob Herbert?  Well, always better to be filtered through those good Republican ideas, apparently.  My take on the article, entitled 'The House of Tranquility' is that it must, in fact, be the House of Chaos.  The lace-trimmed, heart-shaped Valentine goes to Joe Biden who is described as the country's leading "Obama-ologist", and does not really have the "class clown" reputation portrayed by late night comics. And, of course, all is quite well with regard to Rahm Emanuel.  He gets more of a kids Valentine, but a nice one all the same.  Brooks says that the "uninformed float rumors that Rahm is on the outs" And, while Rahm is a lightning rod for the president, he remains "crisply confident" in his position. Which means, to me, that he is looking for a job . Of course, all is tranquil, in case you were wondering, for Brooks says inside the White House they seem unruffled.  An odd shaped  Valentine for Mrs. Clinton appears to have been picked out, but it was not sent--only a puzzling, parenthetical comment that her influence is exceptionally hard to figure out.