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The Obama press conference is on. You'd have to be on Mars not to be seeing it online or on tv, so I'm not going to live blog.

Speech part is over. (Text here.) Shorter version: This is the worst economy since the Depression. If we don't act now, we'll be in dire straits.

In answer to first question, he backtracked of an earlier statement today implying we'll never get out of it if we don't act now. He says he meant it will be difficult to get back on track. Shorter version: He avoids Doomsday scenario.

He seems very presidential and in control. Good for him and us.

Here's a thread for reactions.

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    Oops, I just pu t in a previous thread (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:07:51 PM EST
    that the optics for this presser are terrific.  No styrofoam pillars, these.  Lighting is great -- it looks warm (love rolling out the red carpet, too), and Obama looks good.

    I'm thinking back to photos of FDR giving his fireside chats.  Let's hope Obama does as well in cajoling, consoling, and encouraging one and all -- and especially Congress for a better bill.

    Here's the crucial question: (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:10:55 PM EST
    how many flags?

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    Two, so far (none / 0) (#11)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:15:10 PM EST
    that I can see.  It is a beautiful building, this room is tastefully decorated, and there really is no need for the Obamapalooza sort of setting from the campaign and convention and celebration.

    The lighting is just especially good.  Not harsh.  Lovely sconces behind him and all around the room, so that the president really stands out from the background, too.  (The black suit and almost too glaringly white shirt -- should be pale blue, of course, to look soft white on tv -- sure help make him stand out from the ivory and taupe setting.  And the new shirt collars sure fit better.)

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    On my TV (screen is smaller (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:22:33 PM EST
    than my computer screen) President is pretty blending into the background, except for that white shirt.

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    NBC: the whole picture is (none / 0) (#37)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:35:37 PM EST
    over-exposed - i.e. no detail at all in the white shirt and the people in the audience look really washed out.

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    Gosh, yes. Much better (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:49:54 PM EST
    on CNN, the channel I was watching.  So I checked NBC and MSNBC, and I swear, call DKos!  They must be deliberately "darkening" him. :-) And the entire set.

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    I'm watching C-Span. (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:52:48 PM EST
    Quite dark.

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    I watched on CNN too (none / 0) (#114)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:46:14 PM EST
    And it did look really good.

    Which room was that? I missed the beginning, when they might have said. Oh well. I was wondering what kind of light bulbs they use in the wall sconces. They were perfect.

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    Looks more like a speech than (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:08:00 PM EST
    a press conference.

    He reads well, as usual, but I just do not have a sense that he truly understands the details.

    It will be interesting to see how he does with questions.

    Of course, it is (none / 0) (#8)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:10:58 PM EST
    but I think this is interesting -- better than planted questioners from the public, so that he gives scripted answers.

    I just hope that the media are not overawed by the majesty of it all, compared to the usual presser room, and that they do come up with good, hard questions to get good, hard answers.

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    I must be on Mars! (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Shainzona on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:10:05 PM EST
    No intention of seeing, reading or hearing a thing about it.

    He's still not explaining, in a way that (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:15:52 PM EST
    the average person can understand, why spending is so important.

    He's getting it around the edges, but I think most people watching are scrathing their heads and saying, "Huh?"

    That was my fear (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:22:47 PM EST
    He seemed a bit soft during the townhall I watched today.  This is an emergency.  He had better start getting real clear.  I think he had better start doing a bit of that gentle Clinton pointing finger tucked in thumb on top  faux pounding the air when he speaks too.  He had better start doing something, this isn't cheerleading a "tough" game here for cripes sake.

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    "Most people" have probably (none / 0) (#23)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:26:38 PM EST
    switched to the basketball game by now.  This is pretty boring.

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    Reuters person, I don't care about Iran (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:19:01 PM EST
    right now. I wish they had made this an economy only press conference.

    He needs a shorter answer so we can get on with it.

    My thoughts, too. (5.00 / 5) (#16)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:21:01 PM EST
    I tell ya, Teresa, we oughta run Washington. :-)

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    You did a great job on the (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:24:11 PM EST
    shirt collar issue.

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    Ha. You may recall (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:29:20 PM EST
    that those geeky collars way too big for him really bothered me early on, almost a year ago.  And as soon as he lissened up and got properly fitted, his prospects improved.  The fit matters.

    That said, there's something about the collar's spread that still isn't quite right for him, with his narrow head.  And the shirt is still a bit bunchy under the tie.  

    But who notices that, when he's wearing -- yes, I counted too few -- the flag lapel pin!

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    Recall that from the primary debates he tends to (none / 0) (#20)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:23:52 PM EST
    be long winded, which hurt him as he didn't have time make his points.

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    I was thinking the same thing. (none / 0) (#22)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:25:32 PM EST
    I'm glad he's thoughtful though, beats the heck out of Bush's short smirky answers.

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    University of Chicago (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:32:17 PM EST
    law school "p"rofessor.

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    Two- or three-hour classes in law school? (5.00 / 3) (#58)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:54:36 PM EST
    Yeh, grad seminars are like that, and they can drag for us, too.

    He oughta get some experience at the undergrad level, teaching those humongous survey courses where we have to span a century in 45 minutes before the students start noisily stacking books to run across campus to the next class -- or for the bus and work.  And nothing puts 'em to sleep faster than looking at a talking head, especially of a middle-aged person like him.  He needs . . . PowerPoints!  Video clips!  Lights and sounds!

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    Clips from "My Cousin Vinnie." (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:58:52 PM EST
    Or The Paper Chase (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by lobary on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:17:51 PM EST
    n/m

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    He knows a lot of words, but... (5.00 / 3) (#104)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:31:15 PM EST
    his delivery sucks. Yeah, he could have benefited from a few semesters of giving bi-weekly lectures to 300 general education students who want to be elsewhere.

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    Ha! You've been in my classes (none / 0) (#179)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 10:25:28 AM EST
    and only to meet a requirement -- and you were one of those in the back of the lecture hall, able to run out the door first, weren't you, Foxhole?

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    Oh, that's baaad ;-) (none / 0) (#39)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:37:40 PM EST
    PPUS is alive and well. (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:21:17 PM EST


    ugh, he still thinks he can win Republicans (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:22:53 PM EST
    over. Throw them overboard Obama. They don't want to help you.

    I like that he turned the answer around to the people in Indiana but he should just say he tried, and they aren't going to play fair.

    I don't know (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by Jjc2008 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:28:13 PM EST
    I think he is being more clear than ever that the tax policies of the last 8 years got us here. I am glad to see he is not backing down from putting the blame where it belongs.....I liked when he just said that the people who have been in power complaining about the huge deficit are engaging in revisionist history sine they were the ones that got us her.

    I hope he stays strong in putting money back into education.

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    I agree. He inherited this mess and I'm glad (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:32:30 PM EST
    he keeps pointing it out. Their policies failed. If he wants only serious Republicans to help him, he isn't going to find many/any.

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    He needs to be FORCEFUL... (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Dadler on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:36:51 PM EST
    ...and unsparing.  What has the Republican Party done to deserve such naive respect?

    A little righteous anger would go a long way.

    He should remember the guy who finally told off McCarthy: "Have you no decency, sir?"

    Obama is too nice to those who DO NOT DESERVE to be treated in such a manner.

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    I'm with you! He's too nice to do it. (none / 0) (#41)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:39:30 PM EST
    I am too, in real life, but I'm not President. He will get stronger, I hope. Let the Republicans play their games some more. If he doesn't get mad then, I give up.

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    My read: I'm playing (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:54:04 PM EST
    nice but those guys are cheating.

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    Forceful isn't his deal (none / 0) (#134)
    by sj on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:27:31 PM EST
    He's preternaturally calm, remember?

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    3 questions in ~19 minutes. He needs to (5.00 / 4) (#24)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:27:29 PM EST
    speed it up.

    Definitely. It's not a presser (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:31:22 PM EST
    with this timing, it's an episodic speech with intermittent breaks for word from your folks on the First Amendment front.

    Every question ought to be anticipated, every one ought to have a fast answer -- that is, unless one doesn't want to be quoted.  Then, obfuscation is the thing to do.  But then you don't do it on tv.

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    Here's a ringer: "There is no (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:33:15 PM EST
    such thing as a free lunch."

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    I make jokes about the soup line (none / 0) (#112)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:43:13 PM EST
    but we are going to be needing more kitchens to feed those needing it fairly soon.  I hope this is the last time the free lunch thing is used.  He needs to rethink that one big time or someone is going to make a funny youtube video of him eventually.

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    My sister just e-mailed (5.00 / 2) (#124)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:56:06 PM EST
    she was laid off by her public-access TV station employer.  She is asking everyone to give her input on job possibilities.  What to say?  State of CA is usually in the hiring mode, but not now.  Talking unpd. furloughs and lay offs.

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    And this is the beginning of all this (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:05:22 PM EST
    I can do this.  I can do my part, I will do my part, this is all going to look much worse though before it even begins to start looking better.  I intend to get Universal Healthcare out of this crisis along with other needed programs that we are way behind on in the first world.  America isn't even first world anymore and most Americans don't even realize it yet but they will soon......sadly.

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    Don't cheer me up so much, MT... (none / 0) (#132)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:21:14 PM EST
    I'm sorry Jeff (none / 0) (#139)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:48:32 PM EST
    I am determined to not get taken by surprise with this and get my ducks in a row.  Watched Sicko again last night.  Great Britian ended up with universal care right after WWII when everyone was most appreciative of their shared humanity, and that stuck in my head.  That, and the conversation with the group of Americans living in Europe who noted that in Europe the government fears its people but currently in the U.S. the people fear the government.  

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    Have you read (none / 0) (#140)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:52:58 PM EST
    Paul Krugman's latest book, where he explains why the US didn't also get national health care right after WWII?

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    I haven't read his new book yet (none / 0) (#143)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:54:31 PM EST
    but sounds like if I'm serious about understanding the underlying healthcare story I had better make it my next book.

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#147)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:04:32 PM EST
    according to Krugman, Truman wanted to pass health care as it had always been envisioned as Part II of the social safety net embodied in the New Deal... but the southern states objected to giving the federal government power over health care, because they were afraid they'd be forced to integrate the hospitals.  And here we are, 60 years later.

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    Amazing (none / 0) (#150)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:23:06 PM EST
    Look for Fed (none / 0) (#141)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:53:12 PM EST
    jobs.   www.usajobs.com

    Government is hiring -- big time!

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    Thanks. (none / 0) (#154)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:40:10 PM EST
    Yep, this "crisis" provides a handy (none / 0) (#170)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:14:36 AM EST
    nasty little bogus rationale for a big push-back on employee rights, organized labor, etc. More looting basically.

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    "...I won't get everything I want..." (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Dadler on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:28:21 PM EST
    When he starts from such a postion of self-imposed intellectual weakness, I don't know what to do with the guy.  I want to think he's giving Repubs a month to be nice to him, then he's going for the throat, but I fear this is all we get: a guy very timid in terms of fighting hard and passionately when he has to fight.  Sometimes you can't be nice to people who don't deserve to be treated that way.  I don't think he understands this.  

    It's what we want that matters (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:32:52 PM EST
    and needs to be said FDR-style -- or maybe Mick Jagger style?  "You won't get everything you want, America, but we're working to get you what you need."

    He would have benefited from a break from legal writing to take a class in advertising writing.  The correct pronouns are key.

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    Always been a problem witrh him (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:05:10 PM EST
    the pronouns.  Drove me nuts when he said in campaign stops, "They must think you're stupid."  Aeiiii.  Awful.

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    If that was a line (none / 0) (#152)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:28:52 PM EST
    used in the primaries it was appropriate.  I did and do think that his worshipful supporters were stupid.

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    I just don't get it, I guess - (5.00 / 4) (#28)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:29:17 PM EST
    which is nothing new, lol.  On the one hand, he says that he doesn't want to repeat the failed policies of the past, but on the other hand, he's not just encouraging the input of people who were part of those failed policies, but allowing them to chip away at a bill that ought to represent HIS philospophy and HIS approach to the problem.

    And, he's making the huge mistake of thinking that as long as he can get Republicans on board who are advocating a reduction in spending, they must not be the "bad" Republicans - he's totally veering away from the goals the plan is supposed to be trying to achieve.  If you believe in the power of government to help at all levels, you are working at cross purposes if you are accepting the advice of Republicans who want to cut and cut and cut that part of the plan, aren't you?

    And I know I am the last person to complain about someone being long-winded, but he may have set a new record for the length of time he devoted to answering one question.

    Agree-he's negotiating with himself still! Wants (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:42:08 PM EST
    education funding, but supported the Repugs taking a lot of it out. Wants to build green buildings, improve others; let's the Gang of Scre the People take those funds out. Talks about healthcare...IT improvments, but even that small amount was cut, iirc.

    He can't keep doing that and get strong support.

    Has he answered whether he will allow press coverage of returning dead soldiers??? He does like to talk....

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    He ducked that part of the question. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:44:45 PM EST
    He's back in campaign mode, (none / 0) (#166)
    by BrassTacks on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:58:00 PM EST
    Giving a speech, a long speech that's all over the place.

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    wow, Todd, bad question. (5.00 / 4) (#30)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:29:33 PM EST
    Yeah, we spent ourselves right out of our jobs.

    President has mentioned the people (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:43:09 PM EST
    he appointed re "special" diplomatic missions.  Will he mention his Secretary of State?

    I've been waiting myself... (none / 0) (#46)
    by NJDem on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:47:39 PM EST
    I see the Daily Show splicing his Afghanistan comments with Bush's--feel the change! :)

    Some of the economic specifics he should have said earlier, but generally, I think he's getting better as it goes.

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    I Liked His Answer... (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by santarita on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:48:04 PM EST
    about pork.  I thought he made the Republicans look ridiculous and  look like they are  acting in bad faith, which is exactly what the Republicans are doing.  I'd like to see more of that.

    A-Rod question. I vote for a new Press Corp (5.00 / 9) (#48)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:48:40 PM EST


    Wow (5.00 / 4) (#51)
    by CST on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:50:11 PM EST
    I couldn't BELIEVE they asked that.  What's next, Michael Phelps???

    How do you feel about a pot smoking swimmer mr president?

    UGH

    Cuz there is nothing more important right now than sports.

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    I missed that question (none / 0) (#75)
    by BernieO on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:06:17 PM EST
    Who asked it? On Tweety before the press conference they talked about how he would be asked about this. I did not think it would happen, though, given the overwhelming problems we face.

    Tweety is now saying that we should be impressed by the press. Yeah, right.

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    I think it might be a deliberate dig (none / 0) (#88)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:17:32 PM EST
    at Obama's own 'youthful experimentation' with drugs.

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    I very much doubt (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:24:35 PM EST
    that the reporter asked about Alex Rodriguez because Obama tried drugs in high school or whatever.  I think he asked about Alex Rodriguez because Alex Rodriguez has been in the news.  It would be really weird to bring it up for the reason you suggest.

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    Haven't we all seen much "weirder" (none / 0) (#121)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:54:48 PM EST
    things from the press in the past 8 years?

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    You would rather the question (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:50:15 PM EST
    was about Phelps?  Obama's drug use?  

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    The stoopid. It hurts. (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:51:01 PM EST
    He took it graciously but looked a bit disconcerted -- but then declared himself a baseball fan, so he came out of it okay.  Banish the stoopid reporter.

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    I am disappointed (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:54:54 PM EST
    that he gave a straight answer to that question without acknowledging how trivial it was to bring up, but I suppose he's not looking to embarrass any reporters at his first press conference.

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    Washington Post, right? (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:03:15 PM EST
    That's what I think too (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:48:57 PM EST
    I tuned in late, and that was one of the few questions I saw, so I remember the news organizations I saw.

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    Access Hollywood (none / 0) (#149)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:22:00 PM EST
    or Extra...it resembles the scholastic level of the questions they consistently ask on the Red Carpet.  That, or he just went to the same school as Nancy O'Dell.


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    He didn't hesitate to embarrass Helen Thomas (5.00 / 2) (#125)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:58:14 PM EST
    who was actually asking a serious, thoughtful question. He was curt, bristly, and he pointedly cut her off - same old, same old.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#127)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:02:17 PM EST
    I didn't see him cut her off.  I saw him listen to her question and answer it at some length, although I guess he never addressed the part where she tested him to see if he'd acknowledge that Israel has nukes.

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    Exactly my thought (none / 0) (#157)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:55:36 PM EST
    when she asked about middle east nukes. He sure crawled around that one.

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    Same old press corps (5.00 / 1) (#153)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:39:51 PM EST
    After that question I wouldn't have been surprised if they asked him about the fashions at the Grammy Awards.

    His answer on A-Rod should have been 'I don't believe an answer to that question would be appropriate from someone in my position. Next question'

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    Chris Matthews says the press (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:18:20 PM EST
    did a marvelous job tonight.

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    Oh God (5.00 / 1) (#172)
    by cal1942 on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:20:01 AM EST
    oculus that one made me spit up my coffee.  Now I have to clean the monitor.

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    Apparently, this is not a free-for-all (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:49:05 PM EST
    presser - he has a list of who is asking questions, and I'm guessing, he knows what the questions are.  That's a little disappointing, frankly.

    I'm also a little annoyed that he's not willing to answer some of the TARP questions lest he steal the spotlight from Geithner.  I could understand Geithner not wanting to eat the president't lunch, but I don't get the deference to Geithner.

    It seems like the least he could do is tell the people that those who will be receiving TARP funds will be required to use those funds for the purposes intended.

    I'm guessing the A-Rod question will be the last.

    I would be surprised (5.00 / 3) (#62)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:56:54 PM EST
    if the press corps agreed to pre-submit their questions beforehand.  If that's in fact the practice, I assume someone will blow the whistle on it before too long.

    Obama's practice of calling on specific reporters from a list is a habit he's had for a while.  I guess the scene where everyone raises their hands and starts yelling "Mr. President, Mr. President" isn't really his thing.

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    Fair enough; on reflection, (5.00 / 3) (#79)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:07:55 PM EST
    it did not seem like he was prepared for specific questions.

    I just think, overall, that if you really go back and analyze his answers, you will see that he didn't say a whole lot.  And much of the time, he was contradicting himself.

    Guess that's how you make sure there's something for everyone!

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    It seems to me (5.00 / 4) (#102)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:28:08 PM EST
    that he was trying to choose his words extremely carefully, perhaps in recognition of the fact that if you flub one thing when you're on the big stage, people are playing gotcha with you for a week.  I recall that he lapsed into this mode during some of the campaign debates and it made him seem less effective by virtue of trying to ensure that every word was precisely the correct one for the point being expressed.

    I expect as time goes on he'll relax a little bit and the answers will flow a bit better.  I thought it was a fine performance, but some of the answers kind of gained their own momentum and turned into filibusters.

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    Well that's no chit (none / 0) (#106)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:35:43 PM EST
    Our current insane media can play gotcha with the same sentence or point for days and days.  Have ever just said to heck with it and turned it off for about three days only to turn it on just in time to watch Couric milk the very last bit of gotcha out of the gotcha you hung up on?

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    He also has to deal with (5.00 / 2) (#110)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:40:36 PM EST
    a Republican noise machine that will make a huge production out of anything they can get their hands on.  Did you see all the grief they gave Nancy Pelosi for saying 500 million jobs when she obviously meant 500 thousand jobs?

    Heck, the very first question was a sort of gotcha, asking him if he really meant a prior statement that the economic crisis might be "irreversible" if we fail to act.  Gee, I'm pretty sure he did not literally mean that either we pass the stimulus bill or it's back to the Stone Age, nor have I talked to anyone else who thought he meant it would be literally irreversible.  But common sense sometimes seems to be in short supply.

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    Very true (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:46:21 PM EST
    And most likely why words like entitlements and free lunch were used.  I don't have to like it though and I hate trying to read too much into things so I'm just going to stop now :)

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    As uncharitable as it may seem, (5.00 / 3) (#116)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:46:33 PM EST
    I am sick to death of "Sully" and the Miracle on the Hudson.

    No question that the pilot did an amazing job of landing that plane in the river, and more amazing that there was no loss of life, but...I feel like we see and hear about it every frakin' day.

    Maybe it's a sign that there's not a lot of good news, but between Sully and Suleman (the octuplets mom), I can't tell the difference between the NBC Nightly News and Inside Edition.

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    The media has perfected the ability (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:25:04 PM EST
    to beat a sentence to death while they claim there was something "between the lines" that was far more significant and deserves endless talk time.


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    No, they dont do that (none / 0) (#77)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:07:28 PM EST
    Steve M.  Not a chance, nohow, no way, not ga happn.

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    I agree (none / 0) (#78)
    by BernieO on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:07:45 PM EST
    Even these fools wouldn't do that.

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    And we were (none / 0) (#156)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:43:08 PM EST
    all over Bush for his scripted news conferences, working from a list of reporters.

    Very disappointing.

    It appears that we're going to have to get accustomed to constant disappointment.

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    Not deference to Geithner but (5.00 / 1) (#145)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:58:54 PM EST
    rather ducking the actual quesiton as to whether the banks will be required to extend credit in return for the next chunk of $.

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    He should have had (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:02:56 PM EST
    a forthright answer to that question and then stated that Geithner would give details.

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    ALERT! ALERT! (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Radiowalla on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:56:46 PM EST
    The United States has a president who speaks English!

    Cripes, he cut off Helen Thomas... (5.00 / 4) (#64)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:58:48 PM EST
    He's rattled by her too. How, utterly graceless.

    US presidents are not permitted to acknowledge (none / 0) (#68)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:02:51 PM EST
    there is one nation in the ME with a significant number of nukes, which was Helen's last question.

    But, not much one could grab onto about Af/Pak. (But I was also typing....)

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    Can you elaborate on that a bit... (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:51:58 PM EST
    Are you talking about Israel's 150 nukes as Carter does here at this LINK:
    "The U.S. has more than 12,000 nuclear weapons; the Soviet Union (sic) has about the same; Great Britain and France have several hundred, and Israel has 150 or more," Carter said, according to the BBC. [snip]

    According to a May 26 story from BBC News, however, "most experts estimate that Israel has between 100 and 200 nuclear warheads..." [snip]

    U.S. officials usually follow Israel's policy of "nuclear ambiguity," which neither confirms nor denies Israel's nuclear capacity. This is official deception...[snip]

    So, while IAEA inspectors poke around incessantly in Iran, they are not even authorized to inspect Israel's arsenal.

    By adopting the Israeli policy of nuclear ambiguity, the United States can violate its own restrictions on aiding a nation with unauthorized weapons of mass destruction and continue to lavish billions in aid and military assistance...



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    No questions about Israel//Gaza. (none / 0) (#126)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:59:22 PM EST
    That was a jaw-dropping omission, imo. (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:55:03 PM EST
     

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    Eli at Left Eye on the News addresses Helen's (none / 0) (#182)
    by jawbone on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 09:58:39 AM EST
    question in the context of what Obama was saying about Iran, that if they had nukes everyone else in the neighborhood would begin an arms race. So she gave him a chance to show he was a member of the reality-based community and admit Israel has oddles of nukes, but, so far, no big arms race of the atomic sort. Obama avoided that, maintaining the polite fiction/poiticaly correct fiction that Israel has no nuclear weapons.

    Here's the part where Eli dissects Obama's answers about Iran/Israel (quoting since I can't get into LeftI's links, a weird thing that happens to me every so often over there. Strange.):

    Naturally on foreign policy, Obama's worst sins were on Iran:

    MR. OBAMA: "I said during the campaign that Iran is a country that has extraordinary people, extraordinary history and traditions, but that its actions over many years now have been unhelpful when it comes to promoting peace and prosperity both in the region and around the world; that their attacks or -- or their -- their financing of terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas, the bellicose language that they've used towards Israel, their development of a nuclear weapon or their pursuit of a nuclear weapon -- that all of those things create the possibility of destabilizing the region and are not only contrary to our interests, but I think are contrary to the interests of international peace."

    Notice the not one but two different "false starts" in this section. First he says that Iran attacked other countries, then he corrects himself to claim that Iran finances the allegedly terrorist activities of Hezbollah and Hamas. Then he claims Iran is "developing a nuclear weapon" but corrects himself (sort of) to claim (equally falsely) that they are "pursuing" a nuclear weapon. He still won't let go of this false notion, NIE or no NIE, facts or no facts.

    Needless to say, that bit about "threatening the stability of the region" and "contrary to the interests of international peace" has to be read while supressing a large laugh, considering the role of the United States in not just "threatening" the stability of the region but actively destabilizing the region, and not just threatening the "interests" of international peace, but actively destroying it with their repeated invasions of some countries, bombing of others, funding, arming, and fully supporting the most aggressive state in the region, and so on.

    The next part of his answer has to be read in conjunction with a subsequent question from the inimitable Helen Thomas. Answering the question above, Obama says:

    "We're clear about the fact that a nuclear Iran could set off a nuclear arms race in the region that would be profoundly destabilizing."

    Now you might wonder why, if a "nuclear arms race" was going to be triggered in the region, it wasn't triggered by the nuclear weapons possessed by the most aggressive state in the region, Israel. Now listen to Helen Thomas:

    QUESTION: Mr. President, do you think that Pakistan and -- are maintaining the safe havens in Afghanistan for these so-called terrorists? And also, do you know of any country in the Middle East that has nuclear weapons?

    I'll skip the answer to the first part, and go on to the second:

    "With respect to nuclear weapons, you know, I don't want to speculate. What I know is this: that if we see a nuclear arms race in a region as volatile as the Middle East, everybody will be in danger."

    As opposed to now, when the only people in danger are everyone but Israel. You remember Israel, the country that everyone in the world, except evidently Barack Obama, knows has nuclear weapons.

    By the way, how does he justify "speculating" on what he supposes Iran wants, but not on what Israel has already done?

    / posted @ 2/09/2009 07:43:00 PM /

    [Short answer, yes, addressing Israeli nukes.]

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    India and Pakistan also. (none / 0) (#183)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 10:01:47 AM EST
    I didn't think he was rattled (none / 0) (#120)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:52:21 PM EST
    I think it must be hard to be sure to be polite to her when at the same time she asks questions she already knows the answers to, and knows he can't answer. Plus, she keeps talking while he is answering. Which is her right. I'm just saying it is not graceless of him to keep talking too.

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    Well, Helen Thomas was the only (5.00 / 2) (#131)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:17:24 PM EST
    reporter in the Washington Press Corps who didn't roll over one inch for Bush. I really appreciated her 2006 book: Watchdogs Of Democracy? The Waning Washington Press Corps And How It Has Failed The Public.

    What specific examples did you have in mind here Ruffian when you said:

    she asks questions she already knows the answers to, and knows he [Obama] can't answer.

    Your comment suggests that you think Thomas was out of line. From my perspective, Obama treated Thomas in much the same patronizing, disrespectful manner as Bush did - before he stopped calling on her at all.

    Imo, Thomas was not out of line when she was grilling Bush meat, nor do I think she's out of line now. She's covered every President since JFK - we could all learn a LOT from her and that includes Obama.

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    And Obama (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:22:28 PM EST
    could learn a lot by watching clips of JFK's performance in press conferences.

    I was young then but seeing clips later in life I have to say that he was a master of the modern press conference.

    Crisp answers without hesitation.  Always ready.  When he was caught unaware he'd smile and say something like: 'You can bet I'll be getting up to date on that.'

    Obama filibusted, was hesitant, fumbling, evasive and used the annoying my this, my that. My Treasury Secretary, etc. I don't recall him saying 'my government' (a term Bush used) but I wouldn't have been surprised.  Another lesson from JFK: it was 'this government,' 'Secretary Dillon,' etc. Never a 'my.'

    Picky I know, but I believe revealing as well.

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    Pick away partner... (none / 0) (#163)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:53:10 PM EST
    Just wanted to say "peace" after getting irate over the Hiroshima/A-bomb issue a couple of weeks ago. (I trust I haven't confused you with another TL commenter on that account.) Anyhow, I appreciate your perspective.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#169)
    by cal1942 on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:10:44 AM EST
    Foxhole, I'm the one from the A bomb fracus.  But we seem to otherwise agree about 98% of the time.  I always appreciate your perspectives as well.

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    That's funny, in a 'draft' version of my (none / 0) (#171)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:19:29 AM EST
    comment to you I said 99%. Good to know I'm not far off!

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    Let's split the difference. (none / 0) (#176)
    by cal1942 on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 01:35:46 AM EST
    Done! (none / 0) (#181)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 06:28:38 PM EST
    I have a lot of respect for her too (none / 0) (#137)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:39:13 PM EST
    I was referring specifically to her asking if any country is the Middle East has nukes. She knows Israel has them but the official US stance is for the POTUS not to acknowledge it. Was she trying to trip him up and get him to admit it? Well, that's her right, and nice try.  But she kept talking through his Pakistan answer, muttering that he wouldn't answer the nukes question.

     I understand it is her job to hold their feet to the fire and get under their skin and I'm glad she does it.  I thought Obama did fine with it. Maybe next time he will call on her first and get it out of the way - maybe that's how that tradition got started.

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    I doubt the general public knows (5.00 / 1) (#144)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:56:44 PM EST
    that Israel has 150+ nukes. Why shouldn't Obama divulge that fact - as Jimmy Carter has done? It puts Iran's nuclear "ambitions" in perspective.

    More importantly, we have a right to know since Israel and its military are financed by US tax dollars to the tune of approximately 5 billion dollars annually - meanwhile we're in a state of economic free fall on the home front. I'm just saying...(give us the GD money).

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    I'll add that I think in Obama's case (none / 0) (#138)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:42:39 PM EST
    he filled in a lot of background for the Pakistan question, for the benefit of all of us, so maybe that's why it came off as patronizing to Thomas. I don't think he thought she didn't know that stuff..

    Bush was just obnoxious and patronizing to everyone as part of his personality.

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    Don't mind me, I have a gigantic soft spot for (none / 0) (#146)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:03:40 PM EST
    Helen Thomas. Remember when Colbert featured her in a film that he showed when he was the guest comedian at the Washington correspondents dinner a couple of years ago? Jolly good fun.

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    That's the beauty of Helen Thomas... (none / 0) (#168)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:08:54 AM EST
    When Tony Snow, or Dana Perino, or Bush, or Obama don't answer the question she asked - she will, indeed, repeat it while the person is digressing.

    Nobody else did that tonight. In fact, nobody but Thomas has really done that for the past 8 years. I mean, nobody in the White House Press Corps. There was a time (pre-Reagan) when Helen's style was the norm.  

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    OK, so I've got a crush on Helen Thomas... (none / 0) (#173)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:21:54 AM EST
    Obviously.

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    Wow (none / 0) (#175)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:29:35 AM EST
    Must have been really tough on you when she endorsed Caroline Kennedy as Senator for NY.

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    Ugh, Mara Liasson on "entitlements" -- (5.00 / 3) (#66)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:00:18 PM EST
    He's replying, old habits are hard to break. Huh?? People want to test limits of what they can get? Wha? Have to put that aside.

    Not great answer so far, no getting into examples of ppl with econ problems.

    FINALLY! Challenging Repug assertions they weren't asked to give input initially and Obama says there was consultation, that's why the tax cuts are there.

    Now talking about ideological rigidity. Getting licks in about Repugs calling for fiscal responsibility. Having said that, thinks there are lots of sincere Repubs...to deal with entitlements in serious way!

    OMG! He's going to Reaganize. Noooooooooo!

    Hey, gang, time in NOW to start email blasting the WH to keep his mitts off SocSec and tell him we can't afford to not have single payer.

    That was "now getting into examples of ppl (none / 0) (#82)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:09:09 PM EST
    with econ problems."

    Like those sincere Repubs, Collins, Snowe, Specter, who cut away at arts funding?

    Totally OT, but Heroes is going pretty dark this season! All the heroes in orange jump suits being taken to some undisclosed location....

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    "Entitlements" (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:00:57 PM EST


    Who said "entitlements"? (none / 0) (#76)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:07:01 PM EST
    President. (none / 0) (#80)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:08:33 PM EST
    Disappointing (5.00 / 4) (#85)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:13:02 PM EST
    He's a bit of a coward it seems.  I know he's getting the whole rundown of how tough things are going to get.  In a year you can forget about spinning that entitlement word because people are just going to please want someone to help them.......PLEASE!  He knows this.  He could lead the way by dropping this entitlement crap but alas.....too cowardly?

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    Everytime he says that word (5.00 / 3) (#93)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:22:38 PM EST
    I flinch and think:  fool, what made you think you could retire?

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    Yeah, I was afraid he would use that (none / 0) (#122)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:54:51 PM EST
    as his big example of people being stuck in their ideology. Excuse me, Mr. President, but I'm stuck in an ideology of liking programs that actually work.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#174)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:25:10 AM EST
    "Entitlements" was uttered in the context of the stimulus bill.
    He was talking about tax cuts and entitlements or the two portions of the bill. Republicans are fine with tax cuts portion of the bill but have a big problem with entitlements which they call pork.

    I think that there are a lot of Republicans who are sincere in recognizing that unless we deal with entitlements in a serious way, the problems we have with this years deficit and next years deficit pale in comparison to what we will be seeing 10 or 15 or 20 years down the road. Both democrats and republicans are going to have think differently in order to come together and solve that problem.


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    I want to throw up every time he (5.00 / 5) (#70)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:03:23 PM EST
    talks about the sincere Republicans who want to deal with entitlements.

    It won't be the sincere ones who rule the day - it will be the ones who just want to kill entitlements altogether.  And those Republicans are all too happy to let the relatively sane ones jam their feet in the door, so that the insane ones can bust through.

    I just don't see how you can rail against their failed policies and at the same time keep accepting their "good ideas."  What good ideas?  If their ideas were so good, the wouldn't be Republicans, would they?

    I don't get why the Obama approach isn't, "thanks, but we'll take it from here."

    They're sincere all right (5.00 / 3) (#83)
    by BernieO on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:09:57 PM EST
    They sincerely want to dismantle the entitlement programs.

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    Yeah, it's one of the few (none / 0) (#86)
    by ThatOneVoter on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:13:23 PM EST
    things Republicans are sincere about---ending SS.

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    I think the people in DC don't get it (5.00 / 2) (#72)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:05:49 PM EST
    based on some of these questions. This wasn't an ordinary press conference under ordinary circumstances. They obviously don't care as much about this stimulus package as we do.

    Count me as one not watching it (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:06:03 PM EST
    and sitting here doing homework with Joshua.  I woke up last night at 2:00 a.m. and couldn't get back to sleep.  Ended up sitting awake with the remote in hand in the living room wondering what the hell is going to happen to us all when the "real bad" hits.  I saw Obama on the news earlier today doing a townhall event and see that he is going to take on the B.S.er's and speak to the American people face to face about this.  I'm grateful he's taking the fight to them today, the clock continues to tick.

    Yes he does (5.00 / 3) (#74)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:06:11 PM EST
    Obama seems very presidential and in control.
    But what is he saying?
    In a very seductively intellectual manner, he seems to drift from subject to subject and viewpoint to viewpoint.

    Speaking for me only (5.00 / 4) (#96)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:23:07 PM EST
    I thought thqat he was terrific.

    and then I realized why - after Bush, well . . .

    Hey, if Sam Stein can get a question, why (none / 0) (#100)
    by steviez314 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:27:22 PM EST
    can't you or Jeralyn get in there next time?

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    Good point, BTD. (none / 0) (#101)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:27:28 PM EST
    Regarding Press Conferences (none / 0) (#161)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:33:43 PM EST
    Of the last 5 Presidents Obama ranks a VERY distant 2nd and that ain't sayin' much.

    Slow to answer, fumbling, filibustering, evasive even on no brainer questions and he kept saying 'my this' and my that.'

    Mighty discouraging.

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    I still think if he gets mad, he will let go (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:32:07 PM EST
    of some of his need to please everyone. We know he has a temper when he feels dissed. I liked that he kept going back to the failed policies of the past.

    Just don't let them talk you into being part of their failed future Mr. President. I think Michelle needs to get him riled up because I just know she wouldn't fall for Republican BS.

    We have lost this PR battle. CNN has (5.00 / 2) (#107)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:38:19 PM EST
    a new poll. 55% think the package is too big, only 13% thinks it's too small.

    Shrug (5.00 / 3) (#113)
    by Steve M on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:43:32 PM EST
    Not a very useful question IMO.  Everyone opposes government spending in the abstract, but magically they support it when you ask about specific items.  Should the stimulus package be bigger?  No no, it's too big already?  Okay, does that mean you'd be opposed to an additional $100 million for schools?  Gosh, no, I'd be all in favor of that!

    If Obama wants to use the bully pulpit to lobby for specific items to be added back into the bill during the conference process (as I hope he will), I suspect the public support will be there.  But I'm pretty sure he's not just going to say "the bill should be bigger!" and leave it at that.

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    Is this a viewer poll (none / 0) (#111)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:40:43 PM EST
    or a real poll?

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    I think is was a real one. You've made me (none / 0) (#128)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:04:02 PM EST
    second guess myself, though. I'll watch to see if they mention it again.

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    Thanks for checking (none / 0) (#133)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:26:25 PM EST
    Here you go (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:28:45 PM EST
    It's a real poll

    But 55% of respondents said that even the less expensive Senate plan would cost too much in spending and tax cuts, according to the survey. In addition, 30% think it's just the right amount of money and 13% said the government needs to spend even more.



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    geez, what are people thinking? (none / 0) (#136)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:31:14 PM EST
    They are listening to all the Republicans (none / 0) (#142)
    by Teresa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:53:53 PM EST
    all over the TV. They have framed it as wasteful spending that will only make the deficit worse. That's why Obama needs to explain things in plain English so the average TV viewer can get it.

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    maybe they don't like the tax cuts part (none / 0) (#180)
    by DFLer on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10:20 AM EST
    ..."cost too much in tax cuts and spending"

    If the question was posed differently, say separating the extra tax cuts and spending....

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    Couple of points to make (5.00 / 2) (#130)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 09:06:11 PM EST
    after watching only the second half.

    I came way understanding more about how he thinks than I do with the prepared speeches. For example, when he made the little joke about maybe he shouldn't have had tax cuts in his original proposal even though he wanted them. He snickered and said maybe he should have let the Republicans put them in and take the credit. The way he joked about it made it seem like that would be a juvenile way to play the game. I think he does want to play a straightforward game and stop all the posturing and gamesmanship. I understand that - it is how I run my personal life, but I get taken advantage of a lot, and always pay more than I should for cars , etc. As a result, I never make deals that anyone but I has to live with.

    At the very end he said that he believes that in time rationality and civility will take hold in the way business is done.  I wish him well but I'm not sure he knows who he is dealing with. Has he met Mitch McConnell?

    All in all, very interesting. First presidential presser I have watched in at least 7 years!

    Does he have (none / 0) (#1)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:06:57 PM EST
    dual telemprompters, one on each side? I've never seen him turn his head so many times and never look straight ahead.

    Maybe, but that's the seating (none / 0) (#4)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:09:08 PM EST
    I think.  Thought I saw an opening shot that showed the audience in very wide rows to the left and right of him.  If the head-swinging is bothersome, he has to learn that his real audience is on tv.

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    Yep, he needs to look at the camera (none / 0) (#9)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:12:19 PM EST
    after taking the question.  The answer is to America.

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    Yes, he does (none / 0) (#40)
    by Dr Molly on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:37:47 PM EST
    You could see the two teleprompters in some of the shots. But this is often what he does when he speaks - back and forth. They need to put one in front of him.

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    I am glad he is seemingly (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jjc2008 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:10:32 PM EST
    taking a stronger, more forceful tone. At least that is what I hear. I am fundamentally and optimist and I want to believe this president really is putting the people before the "partisanship".  

    If he puts the people first (none / 0) (#162)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:44:58 PM EST
    he's going to have to be VERY partisan.

    If you're for the people you must be a warrior.

    The outlook isn't brilliant. Right now it appears he's going to bi-partisan the nation right into the toilet.

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    White House press corps doesn't (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:14:38 PM EST
    seem to be taking notes or all that interested.

    President says he consulted both liberal and conservative economists, hence the $$$ amount of the stimuls bill.

    Rahm is talking, not listening! (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:15:22 PM EST
    Aha, so they'll get transcripts (none / 0) (#14)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:18:56 PM EST
    and probably cleaned-up transcripts to correct any errors.  Smart handling of media but may distract from the message if some focus on any differences between what we see on teevee and what we read tomorrow.

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    Pray tell: is that a bust of Lincoln (none / 0) (#27)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:28:21 PM EST
    just behind the President's right shoulder?

    Answer to Todd (none / 0) (#36)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:34:24 PM EST
    He mentioned that foreign countries have lent us too much money. Which countries are those, or does he mean foreign investors and banks? (It was right before he said the party's over.)

    He really never answered Chuck Todd's question. As to whether we consumers should spend or save.

    He did make a couple good points, but there's so (5.00 / 6) (#54)
    by jawbone on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:51:34 PM EST
    much verbiage it's hard to know exactly what he really wants us to understand. I think he's still working it out for himself.

    I have to say that I've never heard a politician as coherent and organized in answering questions as Bill Clinton. It killed me that he messed up bcz it meant we heard less from him!

    I would listen to his answers in wonder and amazement as he restated the questioner's query, ensuring that he understood the questions correctly and that the public understood it; then he would give a topic sentence, produce a verbal brief paragraph with important details; then tie up the answer with a closing summary.

    If it was a multipart question, he would indicate how he was going to answer it when he restated the question.

    I tried to do that--it's not easy and I found it very difficult as I tend to diverge. But, he would take, what, a couple seconds?, three or so, and seemed to create an outline in his mind that he could then follow. And make his answers on point, instructive, and, most wonderfully, make difficult issues understandable.

    Did he have the charm and easy humor of JFK? No, alas, but what he did was quite fine.

    I do miss his masterful press conferences.

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    He might have had the charm and easy humor (5.00 / 3) (#92)
    by BernieO on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:21:50 PM EST
    had the media not been trying to destroy him since the start of his administration, long before Monica. The NY Times and Wash Post got suckered into the bogus Whitewater scandal and would never let it go. He was always being hounded about that kind of thing. It's a wonder he ever had press conferences. They really did look down on him - even Tim Russert referred to him as Bubba.

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    Thank you for mentioning that--I hadn't thought of (none / 0) (#185)
    by jawbone on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 10:17:35 AM EST
    that as a hindrance to humor. But, looking back, the MCM seems to be merciless about jokes from pols they don't support--Gore, Kerry. Mostly Big Dems, aina hey?

    It sure does put a crimp in their style. You're so right.

    Now, Obama's humor: What's with his tendency to diss his vice president? When Biden merely said, when administering the oath to the WH staffers, that his memory was not as good as the Chief Justice's and he would use a note card, Obama pursed his lips, walked over to Biden, put a warning hand on his upper arm or shoulder, said something which I don't recall. Then, during the presser, he did an eye-roll type expression (restrained, but so clear).

    Wha'???

    He used what might be called "humor" when dissing Congress, both parties, when he said that the stimulus bill was not perfect, since it did come out of Washington. That is Repub junk, and why is he throwing it at both Dems and Repubs?

    The only thing standing between this nation and a massive economic depression is Washington.... Get a grip, Mr. President. You're now the president; gotta govern, ya know?

    Messing over Dems won't help him in the long run, when he's going to need every Dem vote he can get. May work against him if he loses Dems in the 2010 election. Time to think ahead, strategically, not just tactically. Mmmmkay?

    (Have I said this previously? I've been thinking it and can't recall.... Age, huh?)

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    Clinton (5.00 / 1) (#165)
    by cal1942 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 11:57:31 PM EST
    was wicked smart.  It's really not fair comparing any recent President to Clinton.

    Our only shot at having that level of ability in the White House anytime soon was lost in the primaries last year.

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    As he was speaking it thought: (none / 0) (#94)
    by nellre on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:22:44 PM EST
    I miss Bill.

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    Great analysis (none / 0) (#148)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:08:53 PM EST
    of WJC speaking style.  

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    But remember those State of the Union (none / 0) (#155)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:41:29 PM EST
    speeches?

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    Yes, I do! And viewership actually increased thru (none / 0) (#184)
    by jawbone on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 10:06:37 AM EST
    the speech, it what ratings tracking showed.

    The MCM declared them boring, but the public seemed to appreciate hearing from the president in clear terms what he intended to do, along with why and how.

    Amazing, but true!

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    16 months to get out of Iraq? (none / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:42:06 PM EST
    I've recently heard an up-to-23 month estimate.

    Where'd you hear the 23 month estimate at? (none / 0) (#81)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:09:07 PM EST
    some Pentagon unidentified source :)?  We can get out of Iraq in 16 months.  It has always been a matter of whether or not we want to do it in that time frame.

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    AP via Newsday: (none / 0) (#90)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:20:39 PM EST
    Thank you oculus (none / 0) (#103)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:30:34 PM EST
    you updated me on something I didn't know was in the hopper.  I wonder why he said 16 months tonight?  Do I dare dream a little dream and perhaps think they have decided to go with the 16 month plan?  Now that would be decisive.  If he decided something like that I could be impressed because he is going to have a room 2/3 full of naysayers with a million reasons why they shouldn't attempt to leave too quickly.  I swear to God the hardest person to unemploy is a damn soldier if you dare listen to them too seriously too often.

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    The reporter definitely said 16 months for (none / 0) (#108)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:38:43 PM EST
    Iraq withdrawal - I didn't hear Obama repeat it - if he did I missed it. Anyone?

    The question struck a discordant note with me. Was the reporter from FOX?

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    I have a feeling that it's all going (none / 0) (#109)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:40:35 PM EST
    to depend on when you start counting the 16 months from.

    It's all starting to remind me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and Elaine go to Florida and stay with Jerry's parents.  The Seinfelds don't have the air conditioning on, and Elaine is trying to sleep on the pull-out bed with the bar that is hitting her in the middle of her back.  She's miserable, and wondering if she can take it for two more days.  Jerry is standing in the doorway, trying to convince Elaine that they really aren't going to be there that long..."it's really, like, 20 minutes."

    I'm pretty sure that whenever we do actually get out of Iraq, the timeline will be counted back to some moment where it appears the 16-month timeline was adhered to.

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    I remember that episode (none / 0) (#167)
    by cal1942 on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 12:00:10 AM EST
    and share your fears.

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    Here is another link, via (none / 0) (#178)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 09:25:48 AM EST
    Huff Post, to IPS (I can't vouch for IPS--never heard of it before):

    IPS

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    Speech modulation... (none / 0) (#56)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:53:52 PM EST
    Pitch; tone; volume; pace: use them.

    Oh, oh, he's really thrown by the A-Rod doping question.

    Yep, it's the insomnia cure style (none / 0) (#63)
    by Cream City on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:57:12 PM EST
    of professorial droning too often.

    Ah, here, he lifted his voice in a lilt, raised the volume a bit, woke up the back rows. . . .

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    Nice dodge on the HuffPo (none / 0) (#60)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 07:55:25 PM EST
    question on Leahy's Truth & Reconciliaton Commission.

    He doesn't want to go there.

    Hello Goodbye (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:10:04 PM EST
    He thinks that important people who commit crimes should be prosecuted - just like you and me.

    He thinks that we should move on.

    Hello.
    Goodbye.

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    He hasn't seen Leahy's (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:14:04 PM EST
    proposal yet.  Give the man a break.

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    Smokescreen (none / 0) (#97)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:23:23 PM EST
    He knows that Leahy is talking about prosecuting Bush administration officials for criminal misconduct.

    He says he's for equal justice - in principle.

    Then he says, let's move on.

    I think moving on is conditional on coming to terms with the crimes of the previous administration.

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    Of course. But he isn't (none / 0) (#99)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:25:24 PM EST
    inclined to do so.  

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#177)
    by lentinel on Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 02:45:23 AM EST
    It has nothing to do with not having read Leahy's bill.

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    I thought that.... (none / 0) (#91)
    by Oje on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:21:41 PM EST
    In his dissertations on the economy, Obama does not seem to have a clear idea of what his economic philosophy is yet. He gets comfortable with "teh economy" when he can connect it to his philosophy of government (no intervention vs. intervention in the marketplace). Otherwise, questions about how consumption or savings will pull Americans out of a global depression in the 21st century seems entirely like meta-economic theoretical disputes. At times, it showed that Obama was a constitutional lawyer and one-term Senator with no prior executive governmental experience.

    So, one question I have after this press conference is whether Obama will figure out his economic philosophy in time to forestall the economic doomsday scenario. I assume it took FDR time to find his legs in the 1930s as the modern meaning of "liberalism" took shape from his own and others' political struggles.

    Crash course in Econ 101 (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by Coral on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:55:57 PM EST
    Seems like the last few weeks have been a crash course in Econ 101. He's a quick study, but not really comfortable enough in his knowledge to be able to convey clearly to an audience of econ illiterates.

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    Robinson on CNN is backing up (none / 0) (#117)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 08:48:07 PM EST
    Obama's theme today in Elkhart:  hey, what do you expect; this stimulus thingee is happening in Washington.  I, on the other hand, am here w/ya all in Indiana.