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If anyone had any doubt, today's college football results prove that the Big Ten stinks.

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    Michael Phelps is so goofy (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by lilburro on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:44:23 PM EST
    what is he doing on SNL?  

    MORE PALIN/CLINTON SKITS PLS!

    Ahem. I believe I called it here first (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:57:41 PM EST
    -- that the season premiere would have to feature Fey as Palin and reprise Poehler as Clinton.

    I knew Fey would be perfect for the Palin look, but who knew she could do the accent so well?  She sounds just like my relatives in the Northwest.  The only thing missing is "and all" at the end of every other sentence.

    And one of my aunts there still wears that beehive hairdo -- but hers is gray now.  I could really freek out Palin with a photo of what she'll look like in forty years. . . .

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    SNL skit is (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Amiss on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:08:35 AM EST
    LINKED here.

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    "I can see Alaska from my house" (1.00 / 0) (#45)
    by Thanin on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:25:58 PM EST
    and, in reference to the bush doctrine, "I dont know what that is."  

    Also, I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly how Hillary feels about palin, a poor excuse for, well, her.

    Good stuff.


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    Thanx to ya'll (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by echinopsia on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:40:52 PM EST
    I had time to go program the TiVo to get SNL.

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    Not Alaska, Russia (none / 0) (#86)
    by cymro on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 03:05:41 AM EST
    "I can see Russia from my house", wasn't it?

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    Ahh yes... (none / 0) (#87)
    by Thanin on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 03:42:43 AM EST
    that would make more sense, heh.

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    Fey is a natch (none / 0) (#38)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:18:56 PM EST
    for Palin.  I dunno if u clued him in but I rec'd a nice email from Palomino today.  His blog is AWESOME.  Makes me lol and has some great analysis(wouldn't expect nothing less).

    Hope everyone is fab at the other watering hole.  Tell Psst, stellaa and stxabuela I said hello for me wouldja?

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    Will do -- and I agree re Palomino's blog (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:27:54 PM EST
    and got an ask from him for a chat, so waiting for that now.  Btw, it was weird to see the SNL skit right after watching the special tonight on Palin.  A good one on Biden, too.  Both really took me back through the decades of bad hairdos for women and men alike.  Ugh.  I feel the need to go through old photos and hide them, as I bet Palin and Biden wish they could do now. :-)

    Maybe they'll handle it as well as Clinton did, with that great photo spread in a magazine that had her pick her 10 worst outfits ever.  Her comments with each photo were marvelously funny.

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    thanks! I miss the old crowd (none / 0) (#51)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:32:05 PM EST
    i didn't watch SNL.  not much of a tv person AT ALL.  It has to be something really important for me to turn on the ol boob tube.

    Clinton knew how to take lemons and make margaritas out of them.  Love her!


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    God me too (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:41:17 PM EST
    and I've missed this?  Did they do 80's big hair and giant bangs?  80's bangs with the white and pink can of Aqua Net, I was such an offender and I stunk so bad whenever I got rained on.  My hair has some natural curl that gets worse as I age.  When I grew it out long though I looked like a lion, used to have to spray that down a bit :)

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    Watch for the CNN specials again (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:52:27 PM EST
    as they always have repeats.  And yes, watch especially for what had to be the '80s, when Palin was an on-air sportscaster -- big hair, big shoulder pads, "and all," as they say there.

    My kids just found a photo of me in the '80s -- same big hair and big shoulders, both requiring artifice, as my hair is as straight as can be . . . and no one but football players had shoulders like that!  Worse, though, is that the kids found a photo of me in the early '60s, when I had the teased "bouffant" with and one of those ubiquitous little velveteen bows on a klippee.  

    Ugh, ugh, ugh.  Gotta go bury photo albums in the backyard, because my kids have learned to use my scanner and can post photos on the internet.  Ugh.

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    Same as for Palin -- CNN, I think (none / 0) (#68)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:56:12 PM EST
    although I switch around so much, when I hear the same stories over and over again, and right now the newsies like Ike.  And thus, they entirely ignored the monsoons that hit farther north from it.  Chicago had to close freeways for hours, O'Hare was a mess, after almost a foot of rain -- and another half a foot expected.  

    At least that meant that some of us to the north finally got the first good rains in more than a month, and we might just go green again.  It has been quite a drought.  Never before have my fiddlehead ferns died; they handle everything.  And our roses really suffered this year, after the record year for snow and the very wet spring but then, just when they needed water, a desert.

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    Palomino has a blog? (none / 0) (#84)
    by shoephone on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:39:31 AM EST
    How do I find it?

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    The accent was perfect! (none / 0) (#40)
    by elonepb on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:21:16 PM EST
    Fey nailed it to a T.

    I'm happy SNL is back, it means a lot of presidential skits.

    I hear Obama was supposed to be on this episode but canceled his appearance?

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    Over reacting? (none / 0) (#71)
    by ding7777 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:12:49 AM EST
    Barack Obama canceled a planned appearance on Saturday Night Live's season premiere and scaled back campaigning Saturday because of the seriousness of Hurricane Ike


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    Now, really. That "reason" (5.00 / 0) (#83)
    by Cream City on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:17:24 AM EST
    is just silly, as there are natural disasters so often across this huge country that he better not ever schedule a tv appearance again that might just involve a few yuks.  Heck, Obama could have predicted that Americans are dying in Iraq tonight, too, so why schedule it at all?

    More likely is that it was not a good venue for him with the Palin skit tonight.  Or perhaps whichever skit they had planned for him turned out to be not good to do after this tough week.

    I actually hope it was the latter reasons, which would show his campaign wising up to the need to stop the celeb stuff and steer clear of the Palin stuff, too -- instead of the reason given.  

    It's not like the poor people in the Galveston-Houston area have electricity to watch him on tv tonight.  And the millions who fled inland could use a laugh.  I hope they enjoyed SNL, at least until Phelps proved that on stage, he's a fish out of water. :-)

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    Meh (2.00 / 0) (#78)
    by lilburro on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:39:09 AM EST
    A good call IMO.  

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    I remember that. (none / 0) (#81)
    by lilburro on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:48:01 AM EST
    Ah Tina Fey is so good! I'm excited for 30 rock..

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    INCREDIBLE QUOTE (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by prose on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:53:19 PM EST
    From Politico -
    "Every day not talking about the economy, the war and how to fix a broken system is a victory for McCain," said John Weaver, a former top strategist to the nominee who left the campaign last year.

    WOW.  I hope that ends up in an ad.

    Barbarianism (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by pluege on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 05:28:00 AM EST
    show me the credible study that demonstrates the death penalty actually serves its professed purpose of deterring crime? (How many people will credibly confess that they planned to murder, but didn't because of the existance of the death penalty?)

    Without concrete, believable evidence that the death penalty is serving its intended function, it serves no purpose other than revenge and to sate the barbarianism of society.

    The Gators... (1.00 / 0) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:09:11 PM EST
    had a bye. I didn't know anyone else played football...although the Ducks did have a nice comeback against one of those lowly Big Ten Duds.

    For the bomb of the day, I would nominate UCLA which stunk it up worse than Auburn and Miss State combined.

    UCLA goes down in defeat (none / 0) (#7)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:13:47 PM EST
    We here in Oregon have detested Rick Neuheisel since his coaching days at Colorado. And that dislike intensified when he coached the Washington Huskies. I am delighted that the Bruins were crushed today.

    GO, Duck!

    Oh, and the Cubbies are still in it. This is our year. Once every 100 years the World Series crown comes to the Cubs (I hope).

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    Go, Ducks! Oregon beats Purdue (none / 0) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:04:58 PM EST
    It was a bit of a squeaker, but Oregon beat Purdue. And it only took two OTs. On the down side, our quarterback went down with a knee injury during the first OT. Justin Roper is actually the no. 2 QB. No.1 QB, Nate Costa, is out for the season after knee surgery.

    I grew up in the Big 10. I have lived the last 30 years in the Pac 10. And, as a Catholic schoolgirl, I learned my college football from watching Notre Dame, who, by the way, beat Michigan today. Of course, that's not really saying much this season.

    Anyway, that whole Big 10-Pac 10 thing makes me a little crazy during the Rose Bowl.

    This is all I know (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:05:13 PM EST
    The colors for the Responsible Dog Ownership day theme this year for the AKC were blue and red.  I had discovered all I needed to know about purchasing the balloons already helium filled so that we could hand them out to children days ago.  I showed up at 8:30 this morn to choose and fetch my balloons and shouldn't there have been plenty of every color available on an early Saturday morning for my event? Go ahead and call me college football stupid but guess how many blue and red balloons remained for sale this morning at 8:30 in Dothan Alabama?  I got pastel balloons since all the adults had already scarfed up all the blue and red balloons for adult parties.  I felt violated by footballpalooza, the children were thrilled just as they would have been with any other color balloon proving once again how pathetic we adults are :)

    Roll Tide balloon thief (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:06:42 PM EST


    Hey! (none / 0) (#6)
    by Steve M on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:09:31 PM EST
    Do not knock the Spartans.  They are bound to win, because they are fighting with a vim.

    I'm a Spartan (none / 0) (#74)
    by cal1942 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:27:25 AM EST
    and have been bleeding green since 1951.

    BTD's comment denigrating the Big Ten is every bit as ridiculous as those from the hacks on ESPN.

    I guess those remarks mean that it's not worthwhile to buy tickets to see a Big Ten game.

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    Sad news (none / 0) (#8)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:20:03 PM EST
    According to the LA Times, novelist David Foster Wallace is dead at 46. He hanged himself. His wife found him. So sad.

    WHAT? (none / 0) (#28)
    by echinopsia on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:46:35 PM EST
    OMG, that's awful!

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    Oh, no. (none / 0) (#29)
    by Don in Seattle on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:51:30 PM EST


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    Grievous (none / 0) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:52:20 PM EST


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    whoa (none / 0) (#59)
    by Turkana on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:42:18 PM EST
    greatest writer of his time. stunning.

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    Whose #1? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Miserere mei on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:20:22 PM EST
    USC! - USC! - USC! - USC!

    dyNASTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    New Poll (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:20:26 PM EST
    out of NJ:
    New Jersey Marist
     Obama 48
     McCain 45

    What's going on in NJ? I heard McCain opened an office there and it's the first time a Republican has done this in 16 years.

    If Obama can't (none / 0) (#12)
    by Miserere mei on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:22:16 PM EST
    dominate NJ what next California?

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    The Republicans opened on office (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:23:56 PM EST
    here in Enterprise AL too.  Put it right in front of the Walmart.  I have only lived here for two other election cycles but there wasn't a Republican office here for either one of those.  Someone in the reddest of the South seems to be sweating just a little bit.

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    I doubt (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:26:32 PM EST
    there's much sweating going on unless it's about a congressional race. Obama closed up shop here in Ga and AL is even redder than we are.

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    I have a dream of moving to GA (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:32:45 PM EST
    someday.  It's only a dream. They do study and teach target I.D. at Ft Benning, so a girl can dream.  I haven't gone into the office to discuss races with them.  I guess I ought to if I want to know who is pulling their strings and why they felt needed here.

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    My dad (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:36:18 PM EST
    was at Ft. Benning before I was born for airborn training. I've been to Columbus but I don't know much about it.

    I've been through Dothan on my way to Panama City. It's a decent size town isn't it?

    I have mixed feelings about AL. Some of the places are absolutely beautiful. Some of them are so backwards I have felt like I fell into a scene from deliverance. Do you like living there?

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    I've never belonged to a Kennel Club (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:44:16 PM EST
    before but here I use them as a group where I can express a more broad minded view of things.  I'm not sure how sad that is right now :) Larry Blumberg looking for a few good Jews to move to his heavily Christian corner of the US South was the behind the scenes chatter though with my dog group this morning.

    Blumberg is chairman of the Blumberg Family Relocation Fund, which is offering Jewish families as much as $50,000 to relocate to Dothan, an overwhelmingly Christian town of 58,000 that calls itself the Peanut Capital of the World. Get involved at Temple Emanu-El and stay at least five years, the group's leaders say, and the money doesn't have to be repaid.

    Many of the people in my club have lived here for a very long time and feel that it is needed because the old Jewish families in the area seem to be dying out and their kids leaving for elsewhere.  None of us are Jewish, we were trying to figure out how to qualify for the 50 grand but none of us meet the neccesary criteria.

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    Eufaula (none / 0) (#72)
    by Amiss on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:21:53 AM EST
    is one of the prettiest towns in Alabama to me, some really beautiful old homes. My Mother grew up there and I have many fond memories of visits there. It is surrounded by a 45,000 acre man made lake with great bass fishing. I believe 8 Alabama governors are from Barbour County, including the infamous George Wallace.

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    I have (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:27:58 PM EST
    no idea. Maybe BTD knows since he's familiar with the polling companies.

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    Those (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:44:58 PM EST
    polls are a sea of red aren't they. FL looks to be gone for Obama. OH is not looking promising at all. CO is tied and Obama has declined in NV.

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    Colorado is kinda weird, from what I read (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Cream City on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:34:05 PM EST
    in finally getting to the piece in the New Yorker noted here a while ago.  Colorado's governor is one of those faux Dems -- anti-choice, anti-other Dem platform principles, too.  

    So I'm less confident now of Colorado, if that's what Dem means there.  Obama's nuancing around the issues now is more understandable, if that's what Dem means these days elsewhere as well.  But Biden will not work with those Western faux Dems  -- they agree with McCain and Palin on many issues!  What a mess.

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    Colorado (none / 0) (#69)
    by christinep on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:59:57 PM EST
    I grew up in Colorado and have live here in Denver most of my adult life. The election really is close this time. In years past where statewide races are concerned, it is not unusual for Democrats to poll ahead in summer and into September. My curiosity goes to the end of September-beginning of October period to see if the normal pattern of shifting more Republican will take hold. So much will probably be determined by some key counties--like the suburban Jefferson (where Obama and Palin will visit Tuesday morning and Monday, respectively. Obama will also be in Pueblo on Monday, a traditionally Democratic area with high Latino population.) Because there are truly demographic shifts occurring in Colorado that favor Democrats, I am optimistic this year.

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    A bit more on Colorado (none / 0) (#70)
    by christinep on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:08:29 AM EST
    About our governor: I personally believe that he fits the western governor mold. See Schweitzer, Richardson, e.g. I kind of like our Gov. Ritter--a former DA who has recently taken newspaper hits for fighting for the union and for his environmentalist positions on the western slope.
    (On the choice issue, Ritter is a devout Catholic who has a record of service in Africa and elsewhere.) Its tricky being a Democratic governor in the mountain west--e.g., frontier theory and guns; environmentalists and hunters; etc.

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    Got that from the article (none / 0) (#73)
    by Cream City on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:22:37 AM EST
    and gotta say that on some issues, he sounded like moderate Republicans in my part of the country.   The impact of the "Western strategy" in the party is evident now.  It will not be good for Midwestern Dems -- as we can see in the polls in the Rustbelt.

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    Gov Ritter (none / 0) (#92)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:50:15 PM EST
    is the former District Attorney for Denver. He is personally against abortion but also against the death penalty. However, he will do nothing to interfere with the law on either. He approved a few death penalty prosecutions while DA, but not as many as most proseuctors would have.

    On the other hand, if Roe were to be overturned and each state allowed to make its own law, and CO passed a law restricting or outlawing abortion, he might not veto it. That made some Democrats uncomfortable when he ran for Governor, but they ended up supporting him. And, he's got a high approval rating.

    He ran the DA's office fairly. I've always liked him. I even contributed a small amount to one of his DA re-election campaigns. He was term-limited and thus able to run for Governor, and I think he has done very well for our state.

    He's a Democrat. He's not a conservative. And he's a good human being.

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    Weird, if you consider Nader and Barr (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by befuddledvoter on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:16:51 PM EST
    They garner on average 3.5% of those polled.  That becomes highly significant overall. Here we go again!

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    THAT map is NUTS (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:27:21 PM EST
    Texas? Weak GOP?  When not ONE democrat holds a state level office?  When Tarrant County gave Bush43 the second largest plurality in the nation?  Where R's successfully redistricted the state into republican oblivion?

    Someone give those morons at that website a clue.  Austin, Dallas and the Rio Grande Valley are the only blue areas of the state. And Dallas is just here lately.

    Calling TX 'weak GOP' is like calling Vermont 'weak Democratic'.

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    The webmaster there definitely leans Dem (none / 0) (#62)
    by skuld1 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:46:53 PM EST
    Maybe it's a case of wishful thinking on his/her part.

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    Other maps (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by waldenpond on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:51:43 PM EST
    Here is 270towin.  I like being able to click on the prior years etc and run simulations.

    Here's RCPs map also.  I like it because you can click on the state to see the polling data and/or change the states to run simulations.

    I give OH and CO to Obama and VA stays red (2004 ...Bush 1.7 mill to Kerry's 1.45 million.. could happen?)

    There are 11 days (9/26)until the first Pres debate, 18 (10/2)until the VP debate and 23 (10/7) to the second Pres debate.

    I am waiting for polls in 4 weeks, mid Oct before the Oct 15 debate......

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    OH (none / 0) (#77)
    by txpolitico67 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:38:37 AM EST
    ain't going Obama.  FDR lost OH to Dewey. JFK lost OH for pete's sake.  Obama will NEVER take it. For all the hoopla, I don't think CO will go Obama either.  

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    Yeah, yeah "NJ is tight!" (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:34:58 PM EST
    heh. Please John McCain, unleash your ads on the New York media market!

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    Heh (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:39:41 PM EST
    Maybe that's what the pollster would like.

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    One would hope the pollsters (none / 0) (#24)
    by andgarden on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:41:38 PM EST
    don't let their hopes into the numbers, but one never knows (except for Zogby--who cooks his polls).

    But yeah, I think the Republicans have been burned too many times to spend in New Jersey.

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    Obama will probably win NJ (none / 0) (#48)
    by skuld1 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:27:09 PM EST
    I suspect he'll do slightly worse than Dems normally do in our purplish/red areas, but that's not enough to offest the urban areas.

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    So exactly (none / 0) (#11)
    by Chisoxy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:21:12 PM EST
    How much goose stepping is required in order not be branded as being in opposition to the dem ticket? I tell someone that if he wants mindless group think to head over to another site and now I'm branded a republican supporter.

    Must every post contain a McCain criticism? Do I have to constantly refer to some laughably baseless Enquirer Palin rumor? What exactly is being looked for?

    Oh, almost forgot:  Obama 08! Because McCain cant use email and smells like old newspaper!

    Go Georgia Bulldogs! (none / 0) (#21)
    by talesoftwokitties on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:34:59 PM EST
    woof. woof. woof!

    Ugh (none / 0) (#31)
    by echinopsia on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:52:27 PM EST
    Obama's losing (and I don't much care). The summer's over. Houseplants came inside today from flourishing on the porch all summer to slowly declining all winter. The vegetable garden is winding down and the flowers are going dormant. Soon there will be frost, then snow, then six months of cold.

    No wonder David Foster Wallace hanged himself.

    there's always spring (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:22:45 PM EST
    and summer.  Don't despair echinopsia.  Summer ending where I live is a relief.  The heat is quite brutal (not to mention the energy bills).

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    Where I live (none / 0) (#65)
    by echinopsia on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:50:07 PM EST
    Summer is a boon, and summer energy bills are nothing (I have a swamp cooler - cheap cooling!) compared to winter heating costs.

    Actually I have little to complain about - for a moderately inexpensive (in regards to heating and cooling combined with water costs and job opportunities and pay and general cost of living in a lively metro area) I could hardly have it better.

    Like I said, I like to b!tch. I just hate seeing summer go every year. It never lasts long enough, but there is no where on earth where it lasts exactly long enough at the right temperature. Here, it's actually close.

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    I miss winter living where I live (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:59:18 PM EST
    It gets so hot here in the summer things stop blooming until fall.  The daffodils show up in February. I suffer from SAD when I live up North and have an actual winter, and I suffer from it horribly.  I'm not a mild case.  Still find myself missing winter though.  Cross country skiing used to be such a good couple of days cure and so beautiful.  Get all sweaty and the sun zinging off the skin of the snow and frying into my retinas, causing my brain to produce GOOD endorphins for a starving body.  It was almost like drug abuse :)

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    Yeah, well (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by echinopsia on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:12:00 PM EST
    You can always go north for a few days of cross-country skiing - heck, come stay with me, I've got a spare room and an inflatable mattress. At my house you're about 30 minutes from the mountains, and I'm in central Denver.

    I moved to San Diego when I was 22 because I HATED Midwestern winters. I only ended up in Denver (with relatively mild, sunny, largely unsnowy winters; don't tell anybody) because I was talked into it by an ex-spouse. And I remain because owning a house is possible here for a single person.

    I still, even though I know they are necessary for temperate zone plants like bulbs and lilacs, resent the cold snowy months. I still, on late summer gorgeous days like today, sit inside by an open window researching garden things on the computer instead of going out for a bicycle ride like I wish I could do all winter.

    Maybe I just enjoy b!tching.

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    God, you just said Denver (none / 0) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:21:21 PM EST
    and Mtns........at 43 that is almost better than sex followed by chocolate.  I miss the West so much.  My kennel club members just roared laughing at me down here how I address people.  They said I scared a guy today while asking him what his shirt meant.  I have zero Scarlett O'Hara in me other than shaking my fist at the sky.  Perhaps Juleps would help. And to think that I used to have a female friend from Jersey that scared the snot out of men in Wyoming just by speaking to them.  If I brought her down here it would be like something out of Dune and using killing words.

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    militarytracy (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by txpolitico67 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:21:09 PM EST
    i didn't get a chance to respond/apologize for my comment about Biden's son's service to Iraq that you called me out on.

    Trust me I would never diminsh anyone's service to the military considering the long line of military people in my family.

    I didn't mean to offend you at all.  Way sorry.

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    I need to counter apologize (5.00 / 0) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:26:48 PM EST
    I was frustrated the past few days and the Palin thing.  I'm just tired of war right now.  I could have just explained myself.  Military families get to use JAG for their own uses.  We had our wills done through JAG and a few other things, so I have an idea of what a difference in legal representation they are compared to my civilian local attorney here who oversaw our house purchase and helped with some teenager stuff.  Just frustrated, today and going to hang out with kids helped a lot and my son showed up later in his wheelchair and his Auburn casts and we had a great time inspite of the state of the union.

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    HOLY SH*T DAVID FOSTER WALLACE (none / 0) (#53)
    by Southsider on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:34:41 PM EST
    HANGED HIMSELF??

    Jesus Christ, I just googled.  It's true.  My god, what a loss.  Why?  Why?

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    There is no answer. (none / 0) (#75)
    by echinopsia on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:29:54 AM EST
    My incredibly brilliant and talented best friend jumped off the Coronado Bridge in 1978. I've asked that question for years. The only answer is that she felt dying offered her a better and more hopeful option than living, which is sad but not as sad as thinking she only wanted an end to pain. She wanted something better than what life was offering her just then. And she was willing to take the chance that either nothingness or something better was on the other side.

    In any case, it wasn't about me or anyone else who loved her. It was about her, her pain, and her hope that there was something better she could only reach this way. That's all you can live with when someone you love commits suicide. even when it's someone you only admire from afar.

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    oregon had five costly turnovers (none / 0) (#33)
    by Turkana on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:55:00 PM EST
    and still won at purdue. and oregon isn't anywhere near last year's team.

    Sadly, this year's Ducks (none / 0) (#54)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:37:51 PM EST
    are just last year's Ducks after Dennis Dixon's knee went out. Maybe things will get better. Hard to believe they are ranked at #16.

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    they're not THAT bad (none / 0) (#55)
    by Turkana on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:40:00 PM EST
    that team couldn't win a game, until their bowl. this year's ducks have some tough games coming up, so we're about to find out where they really stand, but there's no way they're as bad as the post-dixon disaster.

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    Well, with Costa out all season (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:45:29 PM EST
    and Roper's injury today, the QB situation is again grim. We'll see. Maybe Roper isn't hurt badly, but it is his second injury this year. They are down to the true freshman, Chris (I can't remember his last name,), and the coaches haven't taught him any of the passing plays yet.

    But, hey, I am a lifelong fan of both the Cubs and the Bears. So, hope springs eternal.

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    Clicked away from the Sooners (none / 0) (#43)
    by Klio on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:22:49 PM EST
    at halftime.

    Did we win?

    The Big Ten team (none / 0) (#47)
    by Natal on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 11:27:07 PM EST
    to watch is Penn State. They seem to be quite formidable so far. If they get trounced by a top 25 team then I'll agree the Big Ten is washed up. Until then the jury is still out.

    Go Hawkeyes! No TDs scored against them so far this season.

    To share an interesting stat (none / 0) (#90)
    by Makarov on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:51:28 PM EST
    Penn State had 3 Quarterbacks throw touchdown passes yesterday. Three. I'd be surprised if that's happened before in my lifetime, particularly against a major school like Syracuse.

    Last week, our top receiver rose to #3 on the school's career receptions list, surpassing O.J. McDuffy. Three current receivers are in the top 6 of career receptions for PSU.

    If the defense can stay healthy and out of trouble, Penn State has an excellent shot at a championship year.

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    Is it kosher for a guy whose team (none / 0) (#76)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:37:17 AM EST
    has a bye today to mock the sad fortunes of certain Big 10 teams?  

    I missed SNL, but the skit was great (none / 0) (#79)
    by BarnBabe on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:44:08 AM EST
    It was up on UTube and it was great. When McCain announced Palin, or CNN announced Palin, I looked at the picture and said she really looked like Tina Fey. And Tina played Palin so well it was amazing. You can hardly tell the difference and she had the mannerisms down and all. It was a good skit.

    BIG 10 VICTORY (none / 0) (#80)
    by TChris on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:46:03 AM EST
    Despite conference-friendly officiating from WAC officials, the no. 10 Wisconsin Badgers from the BIG 10 traveled to No. 21 Fresno State and won 13-10.  The only BIG 10 team I care about is now 3-0 and doing just fine.

    The Times is good for wrapping fish. (none / 0) (#89)
    by lentinel on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 06:10:46 AM EST
    Reporting about the damage inflicted on Texas by hurricane Ike, the Times said that, "There were reports of as many as four people killed". (Italics, mine)

    So when it's us being killed, it's "as many as four"...
    When it's Pakistani children ("collateral damage", they) they barely get a mention, and if so, they do not merit an "as many as" qualifier.

    Bush's mentality has pervaded our culture so deeply that we don't even remember what life was like before it.

    Surely you meant the PAC 10 (none / 0) (#91)
    by McKinless on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:58:18 PM EST
    As a TCU and MWC fan, I take particular delight in TCU over Stanford, BYU over UCLA, UNLV over Arizona State (!!), and New Mexico over Arizona.

    Go Frogs!

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