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NBC: Lieberman In Dayton For McCain VP Announcement

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:18:39 AM EST
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So says NBC. Hinting at Lieberman as possibly the VP pick. Puhleaaze McCain, pick Lieberman. Please, please, please. for two reasons. Number one, it would guarantee that Obama will win in a landslide.

Almost as importantly, it would pit Obama's new Politics of Contrast against David Broder's Unity '08 Dream Ticket. And we can smash, once and for all, the Beltway's grip on political discourse in this country.

By Big Tent Democrat, speaking for me only

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    If he picks Joe (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Redshoes on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:24:31 AM EST
    can we rename the Republican ticket "Fear and Loathing" ?

    They can re-name (none / 0) (#15)
    by litigatormom on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:32:43 AM EST
    the Republican Convention the "Connecticut for Lieberman/McCain Convention."

    Campaign themes: picture of McCain hugging Bush, picture of Lieberman kissing Bush. Motto: here it is, your Republican three way.

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    If McCain picks Lieberman.... (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by p lukasiak on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:31:02 AM EST
    I'll vote for Obama.

    I gotta believe (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by bjorn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:36:10 AM EST
    McCain has thought about that...it is just to good to be true...could he be dumb enough to do it?

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    Won't be Lieberman (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Key on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:32:45 AM EST
    He's there to show his support.  Won't be him.

    Not Huckabee (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by cmugirl on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:33:29 AM EST
    he said he wasn't going to Ohio.

    I think Lieberman is a head fake.  Gotta compete with the Obama VP-drama of last week.  Keep the media talking about it instead of Obama's speech.

    Mika Brezenski keeps pleading (none / 0) (#41)
    by litigatormom on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:08 AM EST
    (ineffectually) to stop talking about the VP pick because McCain is "playing with us" to take attention away from Obama's speech. Duh.  Joe Scarborough says, "Yeah, but its news so we're going to do it anyway."

    Peggy Noonan knocks Obama's speech, saying it did not soar, although it at least avoided the "cliches" of "the baby with two heads born to a single mother with no health care."  She thought that was a real soaring critique, but even Mrs. Greenspan was horrified, and she rushed into to praise the speech.

    Now there is speculation that McCain might pick Jeb Bush.  "If only he could change his last name, he would be the next President of the United States."  Oh. my. God. "How ironic that people say that George W. Bush got everything because of his last name, and Jeb Bush will be denied the presidency because of his last name."

    "Denied"?  DENIED?  Now Mrs. Greenspan is praising Jebby's handling of hurricanes.

    I'm sorry. I have to go throw up now.

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    I don't (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:48:32 AM EST
    understand why Dems and liberals have ever paid attention to her. She doesn't have our best interests at heart and anytime she praises Obama it makes me more suspicious of him.

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    Do you believe Mary Matalin is actually (none / 0) (#98)
    by andrys on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:13:58 AM EST
    a Democrat because she's married to James Carville ?

    ;-)

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    well FL would be a slam dunk (none / 0) (#54)
    by bjorn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:44:26 AM EST
    for Repubs if he picks Jeb, don't know about the rest of country.  But it would galvanize the christian right, they love him more than Georgey.

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    Might energize the right, ol' Jeb, (none / 0) (#62)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:46:50 AM EST
    but not anyone on the left, I believe in the middle. We've had with the Bush's, or, at least, I have.

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    Jeb Bush? (none / 0) (#63)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:46:54 AM EST
    ROTFLMAO! Now there's one that is nothing but negatives!!!

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    The Joe v. Joe debate ... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:36:20 AM EST
    would be must see TV.

    it looks like its Palin (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:36:47 AM EST
    if so its brilliant.  I expected McCain to make a bolder pick but that is bolder than I expected.  its a home run.
    but picking her McCain has done two things.
    he has assured my vote for Obama and he has won the election.  they might as well have the inauguration   now.
    she will get enough women to make the difference and she will make the base very happy.  
    and, anyone who thinks the fact that she hunts and fishes is a problem simply does not understand the american electorate and needs to get out of the city more.
    How does it look like Palin? (none / 0) (#30)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:37:37 AM EST
    just curious about your thought process.

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    havent you been watching teevee? (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:34 AM EST


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    Yes (none / 0) (#39)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:40:35 AM EST
    NBC reported she was in Alaska.

    they are probably wrong I guess.

    But I assume you are watching Fox?

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    I was watching them all this morning (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:45:22 AM EST
    all were speculating about her.
    the thing about her still being in alaska is only because her schedule says she will be as some kind of fair today.
    at least thats the way I understood it.

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    I am watching Morning Joe (none / 0) (#59)
    by standingup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:45:36 AM EST
    The best part of it is listening to Mika, exasperated over McCain playing the press.  How dare they tinker with the media ;-)  

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    And Mika wanted to keep talking about Obama (none / 0) (#99)
    by andrys on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:17:15 AM EST
    and last night's event (which was visually stunning despite my worries over those columns earlier).

    She should join Olbermann, and sigh a lot less.

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    heres what we know (none / 0) (#50)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:43:38 AM EST
    its none of the mentioned yesterday.  all but Lieberman have been eliminated.  do we honestly think its Lieberman? um, no.
    last night there was a mystery flight from alaska seen unloading a woman and two teenagers (she has two teenage sons) to ground zero.
    Drudge has called it, for whatever thats worth.
    check out the headline pic.
    there are reports of her still being in Alaska.
    we will see.
    I guess it will be a brillant pick or the most boneheaded pick imaginable.

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    agree - brilliant move if true (none / 0) (#42)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:13 AM EST


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    I agree... Sarah Palin would be brilliant (none / 0) (#72)
    by Exeter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:48:37 AM EST
    and a great, great move on McCain's part.

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    Hmm... (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by mike in dc on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:39:21 AM EST
    ....let's see. Pro-choice, quasi-liberal on many issues, war hawk, Jewish(probably an issue for some in the evangelical base), old, smarmy,low energy, speeches put people to sleep, rep as a quisling...

    Yep.  A truly horrible pick.  We can but dream McCain will have the courage to do the wrong thing.

    And we can but hope that Harry Reid will finally get off the dime and kick Joe out of the caucus next January.  If endorsing the GOP nominee and speaking at the convention aren't grounds enough, I'd assume that actually running on the Republican ticket would finally do it.  Sadly, I could be mistaken.

    While I personally can't stand Lieberman (none / 0) (#100)
    by andrys on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:20:44 AM EST
    the Dems rejected him and he ran as an Independent.

    So, isn't he entitled to act as an Independent, and if the Dems want to encourage him (with current perks) and if the Repubs want to get on his good side (convention speaking slot, getting him to feel that someone loves him) isn't that what would be expected for an Independent?

      We're not giving him his current perks out of good feeling for him - it's because we've needed him on votes.

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    OMG (5.00 / 2) (#87)
    by NJDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:00:02 AM EST
    Do everyone realize that if he picks Palin, wins and only serves on term, the 2012 election will (most likely) be between two women?  

    It appears that McCain has invited (none / 0) (#1)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:21:27 AM EST
    all of the contenders. Sarah Palin has arrived by chartered jet from Alaska.

    NBC said she was in Alaska (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:23:12 AM EST


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    CNN said they were trying to (none / 0) (#4)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:25:21 AM EST
    verify that she was in Alaska.

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    NBC said they confirmed she was (none / 0) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:26:17 AM EST
    in Alaska.

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    nah (none / 0) (#12)
    by bigbay on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:31:26 AM EST
    her spokesman said that..they didn't talk to her

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    Um (none / 0) (#22)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:34:12 AM EST
    Her spokesman s not the only way to confirm where she is.

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    I didn't know that NBC was (5.00 / 4) (#28)
    by dk on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:36:59 AM EST
    still a source for actual news.

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    Heh. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Robot Porter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:05 AM EST


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    ROFLOL (none / 0) (#33)
    by barryluda on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:11 AM EST


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    Well (none / 0) (#37)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:39:30 AM EST
    About Sarah Palin being in Alaska, one would hope.

    but it probably is wrong.

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    Ambinder (none / 0) (#49)
    by dk on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:43:10 AM EST
    is tracking all flights out of Alaska.  Kinda funny.

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    From Fox (none / 0) (#29)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:37:29 AM EST
    Link

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    Then NBc is wrong (none / 0) (#35)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:46 AM EST
    Not for the first time.

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    So what are the pro and cons if he picks Sarah? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:27:04 AM EST


    Sarah Palin (none / 0) (#8)
    by litigatormom on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:29:57 AM EST
    She brings a spotlight to Alaska Republican politics.

    Bring it on.

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    Yeah (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:33:55 AM EST
    but we've got to deal with Chicago machine politics which ain't no great shakes either and ours is at the top of the ticket.

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    bring it on? (none / 0) (#64)
    by ccpup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:09 AM EST
    she's actually incredibly popular in Alaska BECAUSE she's been cracking down on corruption in her own Party.

    In her own Party!

    Many voters would find that commendable, especially those disaffected Dems who watched, aghast, the corruption of the DNC.

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    she beat out the corruption (none / 0) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:49:13 AM EST
    in a primary

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    Well (none / 0) (#40)
    by elonepb on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:04 AM EST
    The pro is that some women will vote for her just because she's a woman (and ignore her pro-life stance, gun-toting NRA member, nepotism scandal, etc.)

    The con is, this backfires on everything McCain has talked about needing in the White House: experience. She has none, and if McCain goes down (he's getting old) you will have Sarah as President?

    I don't see it.

    GO JOE!

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    Maybe just diluting the Hilary support is his goal (none / 0) (#55)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:44:31 AM EST
    Plus she is a governor, which have carried more weight than senators running for president in the past.

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    thats exactly right (none / 0) (#78)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:52:28 AM EST
    the one non washington insider in the race

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    Palin is good with energy policy. (none / 0) (#77)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:51:04 AM EST


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    Yeah (none / 0) (#79)
    by elonepb on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:52:34 AM EST
    A lot of oil in Alaska though...

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    experience (none / 0) (#83)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:55:12 AM EST
    many will think that being a governor is much better preparation than Obamas past.

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    OMG! (none / 0) (#7)
    by bjorn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:28:10 AM EST
    How cool that we could crush Lieberman and McCain...MSNBC reporting it is not Romney.  But they are getting everyone to chatter this morning so maybe it is all a huge head fake.

    Mike Murphy (none / 0) (#9)
    by litigatormom on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:30:33 AM EST
    says he has gotten it direct from Romney that he will not be in Dayton.

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    Yes, Boston TV says not Mitt (none / 0) (#14)
    by befuddledvoter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:32:28 AM EST
    N/T

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    NBC news is reporting that (none / 0) (#11)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:31:12 AM EST
    they can confirm it's not Romney nor Pawlenty

    Go Joe!

    That would be such a terrible ticket.

    I don't (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:31:43 AM EST
    think that Lieberman is going to do what everybody here thinks it will do. I'm sure they've done polling to decide whether this will work or not.

    It certainly plays up the "maverick" factor while downplaying the GOP side of the equation.

    It also greatly undercuts the SCOTUS argument from Obama and probably locks up FL for McCain.

    Don't let your dislike of Lieberman blind you to the positives that "could" happen.

    Don't let your dislike of Obama (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:33:20 AM EST
    blind you to the fact that McCain will entirely lose his base if he picks Lieberman.

    Lieberman equals guaranteed landslide for Obama.

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    It's (none / 0) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:24 AM EST
    not my dislike of Obama. I don't dislike Obama, I just don't trust him. I just think that people are not being rational about this. You have to remember that the GOP mouthpieces have been talking up Lieberman for literally years. I remember how he was supposed to be booted out of CT for these same reasons.

    Obviously, the McCain campaign thinks there's some benefit to picking him if that in fact is what happened.

    How many people in the GOP thought that Biden would destroy Obama's chances with Dems because of all the D-MNBA stuff people have been yelling for years?

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    McCain is going to have to make (none / 0) (#61)
    by Edgar08 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:46:15 AM EST
    the same sort of argument to his base that Obama supporters are now making to Clinton supporters.

    "sure I picked Lieberman, but if you don't vote for me then it's your own darn fault Obama's in the white house."

    He's gonna have to do a lot of that no matter who he picks.

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    It's not so much just the "dislike" (none / 0) (#20)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:34:02 AM EST
    Picture these two together....not a pleasant photo op.

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    Okay (none / 0) (#48)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:42:56 AM EST
    that's a pretty valid point. LOL.

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    How does it undercut the SCOTUS (none / 0) (#23)
    by litigatormom on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:35:45 AM EST
    argument?

    McCain has pledged to nominate Scalito type judges. Picking Lieberman - whose support for choice is rather lukewarm anyway - isn't going to change that.  Conservatives, though, will be upset because if McCain doesn't serve out his term, Lieberman then gets the nomination power.

    So I don't think Lieberman undercuts Obama's SCOTUS argument, and I think he still scares anti-choice conservatives.

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    It makes (none / 0) (#53)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:44:21 AM EST
    McCain look no really that serious about putting more Alito types on the bench which helps him with the center. The GOP is going to show up anyway. The base is not going to sit home.

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    What positives would Lieberman (none / 0) (#44)
    by standingup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:39 AM EST
    bring to the table?  He isn't popular with Dems or Republicans.  He might get along well with the neocons but other than that, he is just another Zell Miller.  

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    Well (none / 0) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:45:28 AM EST
    he helps McCain make his case that Obama is a runaway radical and the dem party is out of touch with middle america. Sorry, but that's what he'll do and people will believe him because he used to be a Democrat. It's the same thing that Obama has been using these Republicans for.

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    Disagree (none / 0) (#94)
    by standingup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:11:43 AM EST
    The Republicans do trot Lieberman out but it isn't effective.  Lieberman's approval numbers are lower than ever and previous polls show he does not help McCain on the ticket.  The biggest issue where Joe and John agree is on Iraq and their position is not popular with anyone.  Sorry, I am not convinced you are in touch with what middle America is thinking at this point.  

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    Wow! (none / 0) (#21)
    by barryluda on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:34:05 AM EST
    I find it hard to believe that McCain would pick someone who would simultaneously encourage wavering liberals to firmly support Obama while encouraging conservatives to stay home in November.

    Please, let it be so!

    can they be that stupid? (none / 0) (#26)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:36:38 AM EST
    Personally I thought Romney would have been a tough-for-dems choice.

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    McCain hasn't been stupid (none / 0) (#45)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:47 AM EST
    so far.

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    another thing (none / 0) (#32)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:38:09 AM EST
    I could not find a mention of Obamas speech last night on any teevee station.  its like it never happened.
    that is what the Palin buzz did.

    Um (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by elonepb on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:44:39 AM EST
    What TV station were you watching?  

    Turner Classic Movies?

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    cnn fox msnbc nbc abc cbs (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:30 AM EST
    nothing where you would expect news.

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    I believe it isn't McCain's (none / 0) (#81)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:54:31 AM EST
    pick that's the aversion to Obama's speech, altho' that's probably part of it. I think it got some praise last night, but surprisingly, some didn't think it was worth praising. Juan Williams, think of him what you will, surprised me with his critique of the speech. Wasn't at all gushing but thought the theatrics will be remembered.

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    Hilary supporters and a Rep women as VP (none / 0) (#38)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:40:35 AM EST
    How do you think it will effect the Hilary supporters especially the woman supporters?

    LOL (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:42:08 AM EST
    What an incredible embarrassment to democrats if the republicans nominate the first woman for VP after hillary.

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    I can just see the TV ads (none / 0) (#70)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:48:03 AM EST
    Obama shuns women for his VP choice.  I did not.

    I am John McCain and I approve this message



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    Yup (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:50:29 AM EST
    It exposes an inconvenient truth about democrats - they say they stand against bigotry and sexism, but look what they allowed to happen to Hillary, and looked what they participated in.

    I think it's a brilliant move, and I think it's his only hope and he knows it.

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    I know you said "after Hillary" (none / 0) (#95)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:15:30 AM EST
    but it would not be the first woman to run as VP of a major party.

    Don't you think that reasoning for her pick would be very transparent and feel manipulative?

    It would , however, allow the media to hammer the disunity theme over and over, and ignore the major campaign issues. Maybe that's what they're going for.

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    If McCain picks Palin (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by bjorn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:42:27 AM EST
    I suspect no one that voted for Hillary would vote for McCain...just my guess.  I voted for Hillary and last night washed away any remaining doubts I had about voting Obama.

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    I think that's wrong (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:44:13 AM EST


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    could well be (none / 0) (#73)
    by bjorn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:48:53 AM EST
    I am just guessing based on a sample of one, myself.  I would never help the Repubs elect the first woman VP.

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    No offense, but if one Obama speech (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by dk on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:43 AM EST
    washed away your doubts about Obama, then I don't think you would be the target for a Palin pick.

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    Totally agree (none / 0) (#68)
    by elonepb on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:40 AM EST


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    Well, as BTD says, (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:54:38 AM EST
    "speaking for myself only", I agree with Geraldine Ferraro that there are three groups of Hillary supporters. Not all of them are women, BTW. There is the group that preferred Hillary, but it is more important to vote Democrat. Obama already has them, and it is unlikely that any of them would switch to McCain if he picks Palin. The second group are the ones who are on the fence. A Palin VP might pick off those from that group who are eager to have the glass ceiling broken by a woman no matter which party does it. Most years the VP choice doesn't have much influence on the voters, but this year it might. If they are hoping for a Hillary run again in 2012, Palin already a heartbeat away from the presidency might quell some of the sexism next time. For those Hillary supporters, like the PUMAs, who have pledged to keep Obama out of the White House, a Palin choice may swing them from leaving the top of the ticket blank to actually voting for McCain. His choice of a female VP sends a signal that unlike Obama, McCain wants their vote enough to do something to get it.

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    right you are. (none / 0) (#96)
    by rise hillary rise on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:28:35 AM EST
    IMO, there are a not insubstantial number of Hillary supporters who see McCain as an alternative, and would look quite favorably on Palin as VP. if he picks her, that's the demographic he's going for. all the other candidates are lose-lose for one segment of the base or another: Romney, Lieberman, Ridge.

    as one of the most bitter Obama critics I have to say that last night was better than I expected. I did not watch but I did listen. if he had given another of those tent-revival, go for the hindbrain speeches it would have closed the door for me totally. but he was restrained esp in not trying to take the MLK mantle. so I'm at least willing to see what happens when he's not reading from the Teleprompter. (but I ain't voting for McCain't).

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    Palin would attract Hillary supporters (none / 0) (#67)
    by Josey on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:36 AM EST
    But don't they have contacts in Alaska? Palin is so attractive, but almost looks like Clark Kent in those glasses.
    Guess it emphasizes a "studious" look though.

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    You mean like Dorothy Parker (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:03:17 AM EST
    said, "Men seldom make passes at girls who wear glasses"? Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen. The glasses may be a prop.

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    Good question (none / 0) (#76)
    by stefystef on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:50:34 AM EST
    Would moderate and conservative Democratic women vote for McCain if he has a woman on his ticket???

    I think fundamentalist conservatives would vote for a woman VP.  If you watch Christian programs, women evangelists are growing in popularity.  So the idea of a woman in the White House is not repulsive to Republicans and conservatives anymore.

    If McCain picks Palin, he means business.

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    He needs Joe (none / 0) (#51)
    by elonepb on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:43:46 AM EST
    Leiberman is the one who whispers things into his ear when the senile old man forgets who we are fighting in the war.

    Liebermann polls well, though... (none / 0) (#60)
    by Exeter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:45:48 AM EST
    ...doesn't he? I think this would be a better choice then say, Pawlenty, but it would be much better choice (for dems) than a woman such as Sarah Palin or Hutchison-- that would be problematic.

    If it's Palin (none / 0) (#66)
    by stefystef on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:47:32 AM EST
    Then McCain takes some of the wind out of Obama's "change" tour.  I think Joe wants to be Secretary of State so the US can become the military for Israel.

    Joe as VP???  Only wishful thinking.  Remember, Joe failed in 2000 and Republicans have already told McCain, No Libermann (that came from Rove's mouth itself).

    Palin or Tom Ridge????  Ridge would make a powerful combo.

    Palin (none / 0) (#85)
    by ccpup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:55:52 AM EST
    That pick would take a TON of wind out of the Best Evah Speech from last night as well as the historic nature of Obama's Candidacy.

    No longer would people be looking at having to choose from just ONE historic choice, and having that sway their thinking.  They'd have the choice between two thereby helping to mute that aspect of this race.

    Secondly, she's fighting corruption in her own Party -- and has made enemies because of that -- and is one of those politicians who's intelligent about the issues, but in a very conversational, easy going way.  

    She's DANGEROUSLY appealing and could do much to allay fears that McCain is some scary neo-con Second Coming of GW Bush.

    And don't forget there are many disaffected Dems whose first preference was Hillary and could be easily picked up by a choice like this.

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    I'm not sure that (none / 0) (#80)
    by Lahdee on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:53:32 AM EST
    whoever he picks won't be excellent fodder for contrast. From the experienced republicans we'll get to play the fealty to bush card and from the newbies we'll get to play the true believer of the extreme philosophy that has defined republicans for more than 25 years card.


    Palin (none / 0) (#84)
    by cmugirl on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:55:26 AM EST
    Also brings the cute kids to the convention - she has 5 (the youngest being 4 months old).

    and one of them (none / 0) (#86)
    by ccpup on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:58:14 AM EST
    suffers from Downs Syndrome, so that pulls at the heart strings as well.

    I swear, between her role as Governor, five kids with one of them having special needs, fighting corruption in her Party and being scary intelligent about the issues (in a Hillary Lite-type of way) and being an active, outdoorsy type to boot, the woman is a walking mini-pad commercial.

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    Mother of 4 Month Old (none / 0) (#88)
    by redstockinggrandma on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:01:36 AM EST
    It is hard to imagine how a mother of a 4 month old with Down's Syndrome can run for VP. But if it's Palin, the media would be all over it.

    Um... (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:03:30 AM EST
    Mothers can still have brains and careers and work hard.

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    and nannies (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:04:45 AM EST


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    If she can function as governor, (none / 0) (#93)
    by theybannedmeinboston on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:08:04 AM EST
    she most certainly can handle running for VP. And it is my understanding that if elected, her job as VP will be easier than the one she already has.

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    I still think Romeny (none / 0) (#89)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:02:32 AM EST
    I just don't buy the idea of Lieberman. He would create an earthquake within the party. Republican's rarely make radical or politically dumb choices. Romney still is their best choice if they want to be competative. If not him, it shows that this is the season of allowing personalities to over ride intelligence.

    I can't imagine McCain being dumb (none / 0) (#97)
    by Prabhata on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:49:15 AM EST


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