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As of Friday, Aug. 22, 2008, at least 4,146 members of the U.S. military have died in the Iraq war since it began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. ... The AP count is two fewer than the Defense Department's tally, last updated Thursday at 10 a.m. EDT.

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    My cousin (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:59:26 PM EST
    Marine Cpl Jesus Martin Medellin was one of those 4146.  He was the first loss Fort Worth, Texas had in this STOOOOOOOOOOOPID war.

    He was only 20.  His name was Jesus because he was born on Xmas.  For the first few years I would send the White House Xmas cards with his picture in it saying that our Xmas was ruined from now on.

    God, I'm sorry - (none / 0) (#4)
    by Xanthe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:07:57 PM EST
    your family has to live thru it every Christmas.  Stupid doesn't even begin to describe it -  

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    Thanks (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:11:04 PM EST
    Xanthe.  I appreciate that comment.  So many families scarred from death or their returning loved one being permanently disabled.

    Like that song by Edwin Star: "War, what is it good for?  Absolutely NOTHIN!"

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    Don't know what to say except I'm terribly (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:48:11 PM EST
    sorry and nothing will ever remedy your loss fully.  I have begun to run out of words that I feel serve any comforting purpose for family members.  Isn't that terrible?  I've come to a point where it seems like I'm sort of frozenish as the number continues to climb, I stick with telling myself we can't stay this heinous course forever.  It has to change someday.  I try not to get my hopes up about that happening tomorrow though because I've hoped it too many times and it didn't happen.  I used to live for this war to end, but it has continued on for so long I've had to find other things to look forward to.

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    Thank you MT (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:59:22 PM EST
    I just hope that future generations will read and learn that yes, there are some battles that need to be fought, while others like the Iraq war were senseless and brought nothing but useless death and destruction to home, heart and home.  On all sides.

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    AMEN to that! (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:01:02 PM EST
    TX....sorry about Jesus....another life (none / 0) (#18)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:28:11 PM EST
    wasted, and for what?

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    Instead of all the blather about how many (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:15:08 PM EST
    homes John McCain has, we ought to be remembering the 4,146 homes where there is an empty seat at the dining room table, a bedroom frozen in time, a folded American flag enshrined in a wood and glass case, medals on display, hearts broken.

    THAT (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:18:07 PM EST
    should be on a billboard in every city in this nation.  Capital statement Anne!

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    In 2005, there were 2 young men from (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:43:25 PM EST
    my community who were killed in Iraq within several months of each other.  They were best friends.  They went to high school with my daughters, were on the football team, just really good young men who should have had the world at their feet.  One was married only a couple of months when he died.  They went into the Marines together, did their basic training together, and but for the fact that one's deployment was delayed because of illness, they would have been deployed together.

    Their deaths broke the heart of this community; it was like the joy went out of the air, and everywhere you went in the months following their deaths, there was just this awful sadness.

    I am so sorry for the loss of your cousin: bringing the war to an end will not bring back those whose lives have been lost, but it will spare so many more families the heartache you and your family have to live with forever.

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    Thank you Anne (none / 0) (#16)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:04:22 PM EST
    That's why when he was killed I dedicated myself whole-heartedly to all Democratic causes.

    Now, I am heartsick and ANGRY AS HE11 because I feel that after all the fighting for what is right has been shot down by the Democratic party.  They continue to move to the right on issues that they should stay firmly planted on.

    If anything I hope that the needless deaths of American soldiers can bring to light that we need to be very careful how we expend treasury and life when opting for war.

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    I wonder what the Iraqi toll is up to? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by dianem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:21:11 PM EST
    Not that anybody ever really bothered to count that. Or the number of women raped. Or the women who have been forced to wear the veil. Or orphaned children. I think somebody is keeping track of American children who have lost their parents - at least they used to. I wonder if they still are? I hope somebody is keeping track. Well, other than the children themselves.


    We'll really never know (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Xanthe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:23:11 PM EST
    tho there are various reports out there.  Never.

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    As Bob Somerby says, (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Joan in VA on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:47:30 PM EST
    "The dead of Iraq stare up from the ground" as the pundits and pols continue their foolishness. No one is ever held accountable for the harm they cause and it is just wrong.

    TChris....thanks for remembering our (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by PssttCmere08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 11:26:21 PM EST
    fallen service people...you don't hear enough about them anymore.  

    The Bush (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:57:02 PM EST
    Administration today announced that all troops will be out of Iraq by 2011. I guess that campaign issue will be falling by the wayside.

    Another Dem (none / 0) (#6)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:12:13 PM EST
    talking point summarily disarmed.

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    Sobering and grounding (none / 0) (#3)
    by Xanthe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:01:15 PM EST
    after the nonsense of the VP - Four thousand young Americans won't be voting -