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Here's Hillary: No Decision Tonight

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:32:37 PM EST
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Live blogging speech:

Thank you S.D.

Congratulates Obama and supporters on extraordinary race they have run. Our party and democracy is stronger for it.

It is an honor to have run with him and to call him my friend.

16 months ago you and i began a journey to remake America, lists geographic parts of America. [More...]

I am enormously grateful to those who came out because you asked yourselves who will be the best candidate, who is ready to lead our country.

Everyone had a chance to vote. Nearly 18 million of you cast your vote for our campaign. We carried the popular vote with more votes than any candidate in presidential history. We won together the swing states necesary to get to 270 electoral votes.

You wanted a leader who will stand up for our values, a country who will count every single vote.

While this primary was long I am so proud we stayed the course together.

Because we stood our ground every citizen had a chance to vote, a record 35 million people.

I am committed to working to take back the White House in November.

None of you are invisible to me. I will keep standing for you and working for you.

People are asking: What does Hillary want. I want what I've always worked for: to end the war, turn the economy around, health care for everyone and I want the 18 million who voted for me to be respected and no longer treated as invisible.

I have an old-fashioned notion that public service is about helping people. This nation has given me every opportunity and I want it for every American.

I want to restore America's leadership in the world.

People are shouting Denver.

There were days when I had the energy to fight for all of us and when I didn't I leaned on you.

So many people said this race was over months ago and you brought me back every time.

I will carry your stories with me.

Where do we go from here? This has been a long campaign and I will be making no decisions tonight.

But, this has always been your campaign, so to the 18 million who voted for me, I want to hear from you. Go to HillaryClinton.com and tell me.

I will be meeting with party leaders and supporters and determining the best way to proceed.

More thanks to everyone. I am honored and humbled by your support.

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    Here's Hillary: No Decision Tonight | 219 comments (219 topical)
    Ain't no Mountain (5.00 / 7) (#1)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:33:27 PM EST
    high enough to keep her from getting to the top!

    YEAH!

    Love it! (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:33:53 PM EST
    Looking forward to this.

    All class (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:35:04 PM EST
    Praising BHO and his peeps

    BHO "My friend" (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:35:37 PM EST
    She is all class

    Blue is definitely her color (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by sickofhypocrisy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:36:37 PM EST
    she looks fresh and vibrant.

    She is really good at this (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:36:58 PM EST
    And I hope she gets the VP nod.

    With all due respect (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Faust on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:39 PM EST
    I think you are wrong. I think she not only will not turn him down, I think she is negotiating for it.

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    negotiate a different kind of VP (none / 0) (#220)
    by janedw420 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:28:03 PM EST
    Not a VP that only goes to state funerals-fluff. But A new VP, that handles an agenda- certainly Health care and other policy issues that she can spearhead.

    Parent
    I have to say (5.00 / 1) (#153)
    by otherlisa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:03:55 PM EST
    Right now, the ONLY way I will vote for Obama is if he offers HIllary the Vice-Presidency.

    Brokaw is saying some smart stuff right now.

    Parent

    Yeah, he was right (none / 0) (#201)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:16:32 PM EST
    Her speech was all about leverage.

    Parent
    She upstages him just by standing (4.00 / 8) (#51)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:47:47 PM EST
    there next to him saying nothing. I can see why he would not want her.

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    I hope she doesn't accept (3.66 / 6) (#37)
    by dlkincaid on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:19 PM EST
    He and his wife are too dangerous and mean.

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    I do too (none / 0) (#197)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:33 PM EST
    I want her on the national stage for at least 8 more years.

    And Obama ought to know that if he wins in Nov the only way to possibly keep her from challenging him in 2012 would be to have her in the ticket.  Even then...if he hasn't delivered on health care or Iraq, I hope she would challenge him.

    She is too good to be wasted in some cabinet job or serving in the Senate with the idiots who did not endorse her.

    Besides, I believe the unity ticket is the only sure bet for a Dem win in November.

    And I at least want a female VP in my lifetime.

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    Praising women (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:38:04 PM EST
    and going over the 'Who will be best candidate?' points.

    ouch! (5.00 / 1) (#232)
    by Josey on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:42:08 PM EST
    >>>>People are asking: What does Hillary want. I want what I've always worked for: to end the war, turn the economy around, health care for everyone and I want the 18 million who voted for me to be respected and no longer treated as invisible.

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Obama has been the most disrespectful to voters than any candidate I've ever known.
    At least no other candidate has ever called me a racist for not supporting them.
    And no other candidate has ever bashed older voters - and thrown them aside like they were unwanted trash!
    We should not have to ask a nominee for POTUS to be respectful! It should be granted willingly.  But no!  the "uniter" has been stomping around the United States trashing the Clinton administration and dividing the party.


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    President Clinton the 2nd! (5.00 / 6) (#14)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:25 PM EST
    This is not VP material.

    56 to 44  with 29% in.

    they told the media what we ALL think.

    I love NY.

    Uh...does not look like a concession (5.00 / 5) (#15)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:28 PM EST


    No thank God. and my wife and I (5.00 / 4) (#54)
    by Rhouse on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:27 PM EST
    came to the same conclusion as you did.  She's not giving up and she's laying out what she wants and feels the people who voted for her deserve - respect.  She's amazing, I proud I voted for her, and tonight she's talking about UHC for all Americans.

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    She is a LEADER (5.00 / 7) (#16)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:39 PM EST
    and a winner. Such confidence and grace.

    OK - she's going to Denver. She is saying (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:56 PM EST
    as much.

    Anyone who tries to trash her after this is (5.00 / 5) (#19)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:12 PM EST
    on par with Bush supporters.

    Did you miss the first (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by standingup on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:19 PM EST
    part where she congratulated Obama and his supporters?  

    maybe not enough for this fellow (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:42:36 PM EST
    as usual.


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    Every Vote a Prayer (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by mogal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:21 PM EST


    What an incredible SPeaker (5.00 / 4) (#22)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:22 PM EST


    Bill looks ecstatic (5.00 / 4) (#25)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:57 PM EST
    After she says "so glad we stayed the course together." He's so happy. Nice to see.

    How the heck (5.00 / 17) (#27)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:41:26 PM EST
    does she still have so much energy?  She's stronger than when the thing was just beginning.

    She is a fabulous candidate (5.00 / 10) (#32)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:42:47 PM EST
    and it's a shame, a real shame, that she won't be THE candidate.

    Six months ago, I didn't even really like her, and she's changed my mind.

    Parent

    Same thing here (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:39 PM EST


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    She reminds me of General Bill Slim. (none / 0) (#192)
    by Salo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:13:30 PM EST
    She'll be back. She's displayed something superhuman in her character as far as I am concerned.

    No decision is final.  

    Parent

    She's (5.00 / 4) (#143)
    by chrisvee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:40 PM EST
    the complete package: bright, articulate, pragmatic, tough, engaged, and energetic. This is a tragedy for the country IMHO.

    Parent
    I've said this before. (5.00 / 3) (#206)
    by ghost2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:18:19 PM EST
    It's funny.  I love the fictional character Hermione in Harry Potter. Hermione is incredibly smart, tough, and loyal.  She finds time for everything and everyone.  Doesn't back down from a fight, and has amazing courage as well presence of mind.  She is proactive and has a great heart.  She is always prepared and saves Harry's a** many times.  

    Hillary always reminds me of a living embodiment of Hermione, or the other way around.  And I mean that as a great compliment. And I think Rowling will also take it as a great compliment to the character she created.

    Anyone who doesn't admire Hillary Clinton after this primary election, after all she faced, is an utter fool.  
     

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    You mean like... (5.00 / 3) (#28)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:41:29 PM EST
    ...when she said that we should all take the time to give credit to 'my friend' Barack Obama and his supporters for running a great race?

    No congratulations there.

    Oh, you mean that the votes haven't been tallied yet in Denver?

    Ah, right. CNN doesn't count votes that haven't been cast yet.

    Personal (5.00 / 21) (#29)
    by chrisvee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:41:38 PM EST
    When this primary started, I supported her because I thought she was the most competent of the group and the most likely to be able to turn things around. But somewhere along the way, she's managed to infuse her personality into her campaign in a way that makes her seem very genuine.  I admire how tough she is in the face of obstacles that would reduce me to a quivering, weepy mess. Despite the fact that she's a politician and I trust none of them, she's really turned me into quite a devoted fan.  Now, it's personal. Her speech is quite lovely.  Everyone's vote is a prayer.  Even an atheist like me doesn't mind that turn of phrase.

    Karmic (5.00 / 2) (#158)
    by makana44 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:05:52 PM EST
    It's really a shame. Had Hillary prevailed this year's election might truly have focused on the issues and buried the Republicans. But instead the Daley Axelrove machine against the Rove Gramm machine will likely result in one the dirtiest, nastiest elections of all time. McCain's surrogates will sling it and Obama's will sling it right back. Especially given the structure of new media and the way information flies at light-speed and the now generally accepted overt complicity of television news, this year's election is going to be u-g-l-y. And instead of presenting to the world an America that has been chastened and turned off by the despicability of its politicians and now turning face to a brighter future (in fact, the way it is for most of us), it will present an America mired in its demons and unable to extricate itself from its karmic muck (the way it now is, unfortunately, for all of us).

    The story of Hillary Clinton's comeback from certain crushing defeat to actual triumph through the will of the people, only to have it be all for naught due to political cowardice, back room deals, and malfeasance, will be one for the ages.

    I, for one, find her a profoundly inspiring politician, one who I actually like and trust; and it's been a long time since I've been able to say all those things about any politician (Gore only after the fact).

    Taylor Marsh said (silver lining: Taylor, Jeralyn, Anglechal and many more... great women who came to the fore in this challenging time):

    Senator Obama has to win in November. For the sake of this country, I sure hope John McCain doesn't win and I'll do my part to make the case against him, but I have serious concerns about Obama's coalition and the folks he's turned off going into the general election. He's weaker now than he's ever been and the end of the negative material on him hasn't begun to crest. So, he'd better win in November. If not, the day after the election the Clintons, with Hillary leading, will come roaring back. Bank on it. If Obama wins in November, as I've said before, I hope Hillary is there as his vice president, which is the surest way to make that happen.

    I understand what Taylor says about the Democrats need to prevail this year for the good of the country. But I'm not convinced that a permanent eclipse of the Clinton wing of the Democratic party is good for the country. And this is why, as of this moment, I cannot see myself voting for Obama this November. Karma bites, and sometimes you have to suffer through the negativity in order to get passed it. In my book the Daley machine is not any better than the Rove machine. That's the bottom line. Do we bite the bullet now, then make it so and make it right in 2012?


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    She is head and shoulders above (5.00 / 16) (#34)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:43:08 PM EST
    the other people in her party, including Obama.

    She's an adult, another quality we wanted in a candidate.

    As much as I liked her before (5.00 / 5) (#139)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:11 PM EST
    ...my respect for her is at a completely different level now after this primary season.

    She is everything you hoped she was and so, so much more.

    Amazing.

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    We all (5.00 / 2) (#177)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:14 PM EST
    begged for an adult and a fighter while we lamented the fact that we had neither in Bush.

    I guess some of us weren't serious.

    Pathetic.

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    Thank you Hillary.......... (5.00 / 8) (#38)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:44 PM EST
    ...she's fighting for us!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am crying now (5.00 / 6) (#39)
    by bjorn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:48 PM EST


    want my 18 million supporters to be heard!!! (5.00 / 7) (#40)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:51 PM EST
    thankyou

    she got guts.. (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:46:38 PM EST
    no question about that.

    She will be back!!

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    Fighting for her people (5.00 / 18) (#41)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:56 PM EST
    I like that part the best.

    I'm not sure what she's building up to (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:45:46 PM EST
    But it's a good buildup.

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    When you put it THAT way (5.00 / 6) (#49)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:47:25 PM EST
    I can already see the TINS diary.

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    Ugh (5.00 / 4) (#58)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:46 PM EST
    As Homer Simpson says, 'it's funny because it is true."

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    Classy (5.00 / 6) (#42)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:45:29 PM EST
    She is one classy lady!  Wit and poise but I can tell by her tone that there is something going on behind her speech..

    I like the idea she said that ppl would give her supporters respect.  YUP!  I'm tired of the race card because I supported Hillary.

    I want to.... (5.00 / 4) (#44)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:46:15 PM EST
    she's got the same list as I have.

    lawd, she is on the mark.

    I love her, soooooooo much.

    btw - and Bill too, our best and only 2 term president.  Vanity Fair has a law suit from Gena Gershon.  HA! Take that for repeating lies against him.

    How is this woman not our nominee? (5.00 / 12) (#46)
    by Anne on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:46:44 PM EST
    I am awestruck at what she is saying.
    What Does Hillary Want? (5.00 / 6) (#50)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:47:45 PM EST
    I love how she turned that condescending question (condescending as asked) right around back onto the askers.

    Go Hillary!

    DENVER (5.00 / 7) (#52)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:09 PM EST


    Waiting for that... (5.00 / 3) (#63)
    by Fabian on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:21 PM EST
    the crowd does not disappoint.

    (It's what I would be chanting, if I were there.)

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    Denver ... that is the mood there (5.00 / 4) (#53)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:21 PM EST
    me too say Denver!!!

    No decision tonite!!! (5.00 / 2) (#66)
    by TalkRight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:45 PM EST
    like that

    Parent
    Den-ver! Den-ver! (5.00 / 5) (#55)
    by Emma on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:30 PM EST
    I agree!

    She is as strong as she has been (5.00 / 7) (#56)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:34 PM EST
    ...all race.

    This is inspiring.

    Greatness, people. We are all witnesses.

    I can't cry--I'll get a sinus headache, but I may (5.00 / 7) (#57)
    by jawbone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:41 PM EST
    not be able to not cry.

    I want her as my nominee. She's gotten so much better as a campaigner! It's fantastic. Obama? Has he improved as a campaigner? Doesn't seem so to me, but I am a Hillraiser now, so maybe I don't see it.

    She's making her issues, as she can: clearly, firmly, understandably.

    Drat. I want her as my nominee and my president.

    Fight, Hillary, fight! Rise!

    Got the bloody sinus headache (5.00 / 3) (#79)
    by Fabian on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:51:34 PM EST
    already.

    So the tears may be due to that and the sniffly nose as well.

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    "DENVER!" (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:50 PM EST
    Crowd is ON FIRE!

    "What do I want? ... (5.00 / 14) (#60)
    by mogal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:48:59 PM EST
    . . . I want the almost 18 million people that voted for me to be respected, to be heard and to no longer be invisable."

    That was absolutely the best line in the speech! (5.00 / 7) (#175)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:53 PM EST
    Because that is EXACTLY how her voters have been treated, by the DNC, the media, and the Obama campaign.

    She nailed that one. Even if she loses, her supporters need to be heard.

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    Oh gees, I'm in tears. This is killing me. (5.00 / 3) (#61)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:03 PM EST
    sorry for the doublepost.

    Gloat Hillary. You've earned it. (5.00 / 4) (#62)
    by Teresa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:20 PM EST


    I need to kiss Hillary (5.00 / 5) (#64)
    by heineken1717 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:27 PM EST
    I wish my TV had lips!

    NO DECISIONS tonight (5.00 / 6) (#68)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:57 PM EST


    A fundraising pitch. . . (5.00 / 2) (#70)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:15 PM EST
    hmmm.

    Poof, you are a newt...newt (5.00 / 5) (#83)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:52:26 PM EST


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    You don't get it friend (5.00 / 3) (#85)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:52:56 PM EST
    If my wife and I were not maxed out we'd donate all the way to Denver...

    Parent
    Poof, you are the ear of a newt (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:18 PM EST


    Parent
    I thought I heard her ask for thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by lilburro on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:24 PM EST
    not money.  Go to the website and leave feedback.

    Parent
    She did not mention money--asked for thoughts. (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by jawbone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:35 PM EST


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    We can do what we want with our money. (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:50 PM EST


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    I sent $ today, (5.00 / 1) (#190)
    by suisser on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:42 PM EST
    What am I? Dreamer or Fool?? I know. What you think?... I could care less

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    suisser (none / 0) (#221)
    by suki on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:28:09 PM EST
    I hope you'll accept my sincere apology for the rating in another thread.
    I couldn't reply to you there as comments were closed.
    I clearly misunderstood what was going on.
    I'd undo it if I knew how.

    Parent
    Please, no worry :-) (5.00 / 1) (#238)
    by suisser on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:09:48 PM EST
    It can be difficult to see the chain of reply - no, problem :-)

    Parent
    Please, no worry :-) (none / 0) (#239)
    by suisser on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:14:34 PM EST
    It can be difficult to see the chain of reply - no, problem :-) Thanks for your concern!

    Parent
    she said to go there (none / 0) (#107)
    by Monda on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:23 PM EST
    and give her thoughts and ideas

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    This speech is so outstanding (5.00 / 4) (#71)
    by catfish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:19 PM EST
    It's like she's infusing the entire country with confidence that it's been missing for 8 years.

    Obama should just watch this speech and concede she's the nominee ;)

    No decisions tonight! Sweet! Take that Olbermann (5.00 / 7) (#72)
    by leis on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:21 PM EST


    "NO DECISIONS TONIGHT" (5.00 / 4) (#73)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:30 PM EST
    BOOM, AP, BOOM!

    Yay waldenpond! (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:56 PM EST
    purge the mean-spirited vicious trolls!

    WOOT! (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by marisol on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:51:02 PM EST
    "I will be making no decisions tonight!"

    She is PISSED.  Great speech.

    Of course... (5.00 / 5) (#77)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:51:08 PM EST
    she has power and she cannot hand it over like a wimp,

    Asking for people's thoughts... (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:51:21 PM EST
    ...and donations on her site.

    People, you know what to do!

    This woman is not a quitter! (5.00 / 5) (#80)
    by Anne on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:51:37 PM EST
    Denver, baby, DENVER!

    Kos is flipping out... (5.00 / 2) (#84)
    by citizen53 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:52:30 PM EST
    and I bet there is lots of hope and unity there.  :)

    Heh (5.00 / 11) (#106)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:14 PM EST
    He needs to learn his Kris Kristofferson, "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose."

    She does not need Obama, Kos, or the Democratic Party.

    She is not the nominee. Obama is. He needs her. She does not need him.

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    we have no nominee yet (5.00 / 10) (#133)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:15 PM EST
    let's be factual.

    Parent
    Thank you, Jeralyn! (5.00 / 1) (#191)
    by Davidson on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:12:12 PM EST
    I cannot thank you enough for stating that.

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    He's the presumptive (none / 0) (#114)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:57:38 PM EST
    nominee.

    Parent
    I've noticed they call (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:13:45 PM EST
    McCain the "presumptive nominee".  However, they call Obama the "nominee".

    Interesting, isn't it?

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#137)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:53 PM EST
    Yes, but apparently doesn't care about winning the GE.

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    Agree... (none / 0) (#144)
    by citizen53 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:02:05 PM EST
    but they expect her to crawl.

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    Fox reported that not knowing (none / 0) (#145)
    by zfran on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:02:09 PM EST
    what Hillary was going to say but thought she'd say, Obama released some of his speech and the first 10 minutes is all about Hillary!!!!

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    Charitably, that place is insane (none / 0) (#126)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:00 PM EST


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    She made me cry..... (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by Maise7 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:06 PM EST
    Go Hillary!

    I've been crying all night (5.00 / 2) (#113)
    by Lil on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:57:06 PM EST
    which is generally out of character for me. Simply the Best...perfect song.

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    my favorite Tina Turner song (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by bjorn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:22 PM EST


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    This is crazy. (5.00 / 5) (#89)
    by masslib on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:25 PM EST
    My God, she's such a leader.  Why are the supers nominating Obama?

    I clapped out loud at her words (5.00 / 5) (#92)
    by BarnBabe on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:45 PM EST
    I was so glad that the MSM was left without their predictions. They do not deserve to have this time tonight to gloat.  I was glad she said this. So it is up to us to send her the e-mail to take it to Denver. This decision made me feel so good. She is the representative of all woman.

    Amazing how much was (none / 0) (#152)
    by Iris on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:03:48 PM EST
    written in prediction that it was over, that she would suspend her campaign.

    I haven't read any of the Oblogs yet but I predict they will be furious that Hillary didn't live up to their tea-leaf reading.

    Go Hillary!  All the way to Denver and all the way to the White House!

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    Oh man (5.00 / 16) (#93)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:46 PM EST
    "No decisions tonight" is going to ENRAGE certain people.  It makes me smile just thinking about it.

    Heh (5.00 / 2) (#134)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:19 PM EST
    me too! She has waaay more power right now than almost anybody in the party.

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    Wow! (5.00 / 10) (#94)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:48 PM EST
    The crowd is on fire! Listening to her, I can't believe the ugliness and trash that the media has foisted about us this campaign.

    Whatever you do, Senator Clinton, I'm with you.

    I see (5.00 / 7) (#95)
    by vicsan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:50 PM EST
    talking heads EXPLODING all over the place!

    Go, Hillary!!!! To the convention!!!!

    if it is over (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by Monda on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:59 PM EST
    why are you here, troll rating the regular members in this site?  

    HOOPTY DOO (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:17 PM EST


    WHAT A GREAT SPEECH!!! (5.00 / 3) (#99)
    by otherlisa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:26 PM EST
    And she played it perfectly.

    Ends with Tina Tuner (5.00 / 3) (#100)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:31 PM EST


    the best speech ever (5.00 / 8) (#102)
    by bjorn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:54:55 PM EST
    the wrong person is the presumptive nominee

    Making no decisions tonight--crowd goes crazy. (5.00 / 4) (#104)
    by jawbone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:07 PM EST
    "This has always been your campaign" I want to hear from you.

    Share thoughts with her.

    Will be consulting with consultants and party leaders to determine how best to move forward.

    Oh, Hillary--fight on!

    Her mother turns 89 tomorrow!

    Woman in SD "What are you going to do to make sure I have healthcare." No insurance. Shameful. Whatever path Hillary travels next she promises to do something about that.

    This is what I want to hear (5.00 / 9) (#105)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:12 PM EST
    from a democratic president.

    What a speech.

    Simply the best! (5.00 / 4) (#109)
    by OrangeFur on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:55 PM EST
    Aw geez. I haven't cried in forever... don't make me start again.

    let it go (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:22 PM EST
    if you got tears it is real.

    and she IS simply the BEST.

    and She Won't Back Down.

    56 to 44 and 41% reporting.

     

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    Is that Tina Turner? (5.00 / 2) (#115)
    by bluejane on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:57:56 PM EST
    the song -- She's "simply the best, better than all the rest." I have tears streaming down my face.

    I am beyond happy that Hillary (5.00 / 5) (#116)
    by Serene1 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:57:58 PM EST
    refused to pander to the pro Obama MSM tonight and call it quits.

    I am sincerely praying and hoping that she takes this fight all the way to Denver. Gore was prevented from fighting all the way and because of that we are in this mess now. The country is too precious for Hillary to give up now. Both McCain and Obama are the least qualified for the job. Hillary owes it to the nation to take the fight all the way to Denver. America deserves it, we deserve it. Hillary please do it. Denver! Denver! Denver! Denver!

    Amen. Too bad Gore didn't have her spine... (5.00 / 2) (#174)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:52 PM EST
    ...and I don't say that as a dis to Gore. Hillary's courage is a remarkable thing to behold.

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    I think I know what you mean (5.00 / 1) (#227)
    by Boo Radly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:33:46 PM EST
    It is what has been missing from all our lives really - standing up for what is right.

    I do not fault Gore some much as I hunger for rightousness - from a person who is standing for all Americans. And has strength and charactor and ability to deliver it - with grace.

    At least, that is my need and I do not mean to project on you or anyone else.

    It has been such a long time gone to have an actual hero. I'm for human rights for all people.

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    Write to her! (5.00 / 3) (#207)
    by Davidson on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:19:11 PM EST
    Everyone send her your thoughts at her site.

    I stressed the absolute blowback an Obama nomination would be for the Party, race relations, and, thus, the country.  The Party would be absolutely exposed as corrupt and nominating a black man by rigging the nomination, even outright theft, will be totally exploited by the right to hurt race relations.  Not to mention that he's just not qualified and is the product of a corrupt Chicago political machine.  And that's without even mentioning black liberation theology.

    Besides, she's the only one that can win.  We can't afford another Republican administration.

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    Not a concession speach at all! (5.00 / 3) (#117)
    by Rhouse on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:07 PM EST
    And she's asking all of us to visit her web site and let her and her campaign know what we want her to do   -- DENVER.

    And The Comment Form... (none / 0) (#229)
    by AmyinSC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:37:44 PM EST
    Pops up as soon as you go to her site.  I am so proud of her - and I am in awe of her...She truly is "the best" - and the classiest, to boot.  I love her...

    (Oh - and after you hit the Submit button, it takes you to her Contribution form.  It's never too late!)

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    Fox news just said her speech (5.00 / 7) (#118)
    by zfran on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:15 PM EST
    was kind of a "take that Barack" speech!@!!! Love it!!!

    SIMPLY THE BEST! (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by JimWash08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:18 PM EST
    She Is Simply The Best, Second To None!

    My take on the speech (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by KristenWinters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:27 PM EST
    "Barack Obama, You have 18 million reasons to choose me as Vice President!"

    And to the SDs; 18M voters to consider. (5.00 / 2) (#148)
    by jawbone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:02:37 PM EST


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    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:04:43 PM EST
    Much classier than the other pro-Obama reactions on this thread.  And probably more accurate.

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    URGENT !! (5.00 / 2) (#121)
    by Andy08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:27 PM EST
    ALL PLEASE GO TO:

    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/splash/sdmt/

    She is asking for you to tell her you are proud of her and of all what is she fighting for.

    PLEASE !!!!

    My take on the speech (5.00 / 2) (#125)
    by KristenWinters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:48 PM EST
    "Barack Obama, You have 18 million reasons to choose me as Vice President!"

    No more mind-reading, please (5.00 / 1) (#188)
    by Iris on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:17 PM EST
    We get that enough from the Obamasphere & the MSM.  She is saying, and has been saying for months, what she is doing and will do.  Every single time, her actions have lived up to what she said.  How about taking Hillary at her word for once?  She says what she means and means what she says, despite all the rhetoric and propaganda to the contrary.

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    LISTEN TO THE MUSIC AT THE END (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by Andy08 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:12 PM EST
    IT IS   "I WILL NOT BACK DOWN"

    That would be the WRONG thing (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by Mike H on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:06 PM EST
    She needs to take it to Denver, because she is the only candidate remaining who can beat McCain.

    If you want a Democrat in the White House, you need to be begging her to keep in the race.

    heh heh heh (5.00 / 2) (#136)
    by sickofhypocrisy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:00:45 PM EST
    Now's the best time to turn on MSNBC, KO can barely form a sentence.  Awesome.  

    Best.Hillary.Ever! (5.00 / 2) (#146)
    by DEM on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:02:11 PM EST
    Take that, Associated Press!  Take that, Obama & Axelrod!

    No decisions will be made tonight! <smirk>

    I want the 18 million people who voted for me to be heard!

    I loves me some HRC!

    The FOX panel are absolutely gobsmacked.  Ha! Ha!

    DENVER! DENVER! DENVER!

    Why I can NEVER vite fir Barack Obama. (5.00 / 2) (#149)
    by Shainzona on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:02:44 PM EST
    Many of us actually think BO will be WORSE than McCain. Why? Obama has no experience - only his ego - upon which to base this candidacy. Plain. And. Simple.

    He is a political lurker...always in the picture, but never out front, never leading the charge. Even his "famous" speech resulted in not a single attempt by BO to end the war once he got into the Senate. But then, he was so busy on day one running for his next promotion he forgot that little issue, didn't he?

    I remember reading about him running into committee members on their way to a press conference about something they had just accomplished. He said, "What's up" and they told him and he said, "Can I come along"? They said sure - they wanted people on the podium for pictures and then he had the audacity (whoops!) to take the mic and speak as if he had been personally involved in the accomplishment. Staffers were pissed as hell at what he did.

    He lurked in CT in 2006 (never really coming out and supporting Ned Lamont). He lurks on pro-choice (using weasel words and voting present). He lurks on race (demanding a dialog and now saying we should all move on - pun intended!). Condemning the Gas Tax Holiday proposal when he supported other such proposals three times.

    Where in the world does he really stand on things? I don't know. And I'm not willing to take a chance.

    If we elect a lurker then Repugs will rule the day anyway because he lurks right as much as he lurks left.

    NOT what we must have for this country if we are expected to move forward.

    Plus, he has destroyed any improvements we have made in race relations since 1960.  He should be ashamed of himself.

    And, this is now my response on Roe v Wade...(not my words...those of another poster whom I know and respect...and with whom I agree!):

    "If my younger sisters lose Roe Wade it will be their own fault for taking the rights they have for granted, because they didn't fight for them. They are complacent and can take the time to swoon over a sexy empty suit who has already set gender relations back a minimum of 30 years, and we haven't even gotten to the General Election campaign yet. Serves them right. Not my problem. I know how not to get pregnant.

    It's my job to protect the rights I fought for that matter to me. This is a misogynist's campaign and if younger women are too busy spawning over Leland Gaunt handing out Needful Things and discussing his vibrating phone when he leans on one of them, then they will have to learn to take the consequences of their own folly along with the consolations. Maybe then they will Get It. I have already done well in my life. Complacency is their enemy, not mine. Let em eat cell phones."

    --------------------------------------
    As Abraham Lincoln said:

    "I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to succeed, but I am bound to live by the light that I have. I must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong."

    God bless (5.00 / 5) (#151)
    by standingup on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:03:45 PM EST
    Stephanie Tubbs Jones who has stuck by Hillary all the way.  She has had a voice of reason in many of the interviews I have watched.  

    Stephanie T-J (5.00 / 2) (#185)
    by indymom on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:36 PM EST
    Came to my house for a House Party for Undecideds.   She is wonderful.  'Just came in an sat right down in my living room like she lived next door.  She is funny and kind and it seems like she has been invaluable to the campaign.  I hope to see more of her in the future of the Democratic party.

    AAHHH...now they are playing Ricky Martin!  LOVE IT!

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    She totally stole Obama's thunder!! (5.00 / 5) (#156)
    by sickofhypocrisy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:05:09 PM EST
    They expected her to bow out like a good girl, but she said, 'oh, no you d'ent just try to push mama off the stage'.  

    Totally Alpha. Bow down, Obamanation, bow down to her greatness.  

    BRILLIANT!!!  I LOVE HER!!!!

    How dare a bunch of backroom dealers (5.00 / 3) (#157)
    by masslib on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:05:31 PM EST
    deny the people's will.  This is sick.  He's limping to the finish line, while she only grows stronger.  This decision by the Party will live in infamy, denying the country of the people's choice, the first female President.

    Heh (5.00 / 6) (#162)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:23 PM EST
    YOU are dividing the party.  Hillary's speech tonight was pure class and is not hurting Democratic chances one iota.

    Ok...Juan Williams said (5.00 / 3) (#167)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:07:02 PM EST
    it who can be as exciting as Hillary?

    Brit Hume is absolutely befuddled (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by michellemarie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:05 PM EST
    his panel of four was convinced it would be a concession speech. The transcript of Obama's speech acts as though Hillary conceded, so FUNNY!!!!

    DENVER BABY!

    Shocked! That's what people are feeling about (5.00 / 2) (#178)
    by Angel on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:14 PM EST
    the speech.  They thought she's bow out or suspend her campaign but she's saying in essence that's she's in it for the long haul if that's what we want.

    I agree that it was a "take that" to Obama.

    She really knocked this one out of the park.  Maybe people will pay attention to the 18 million who voted for her, and the 270 electoral votes needed.  Now that cat's out of the bag in her own words it might have some resonance.

    DAMN RIGHT (5.00 / 1) (#183)
    by IKE on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:12 PM EST
    No decisio tonight, what's the point she has come this far and another couple of days is not going to hurt anything. I know this comes as bad news to the media but she has the right, darn it she's earn it.

    Huh? (5.00 / 5) (#186)
    by Monda on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:45 PM EST
    Watched CNN for 2 mins.  They are all freaked out.  Carville laughs at them.  
    Gergen said that it's a historical night, first AA nominee, and Hillary did not concede.  That racist woman, how dare she??!!!!

    I'm pissed, and I want her to take to Denver, to hell with the MSM and their Messiah.

    That was AWESOME (5.00 / 1) (#195)
    by tnjen on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:14:02 PM EST
    DENVER!!!!!!!! She just keeps getting better and CNN    is mad as hell that she just had the audacity not to be sad and submissive. ROFLMAO! I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!

    Denver-baby!

    Wow! That was just so inspiring... (5.00 / 1) (#196)
    by madamab on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:02 PM EST
    and it was NOT a concession.

    Everyone, please go to her website as she asks and tell her what you think she should do. She needs to see an outpouring of support for the best presidential candidate we have had in decades.

    Viva Hillary! :-) :-) :-)

    Huh? (5.00 / 3) (#200)
    by Steve M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:16:14 PM EST
    What a strange, strange night, where the losers are energized, and the winners are looking to pick a fight.

    Yes, only 17,999,996 (5.00 / 2) (#202)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:16:47 PM EST
    people to keep her company, excluding yourself, of course, and the three you mentioned.

    The rest of us will just have to take turns keeping her company!

    The bestest part (5.00 / 4) (#211)
    by kmblue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:55 PM EST
    teh media is totally shocked.  Believe you me,
    having worked in cable news for years, I know.

    The teleprompters are jamming, the talent is off script.  Russert and Olbermann can't get their faces arranged properly.

    But not to worry.  Unfortunately, they will recover and punish Hillary for surprising them.

    Meanwhile, isn't someone supposed to be making a speech?  ;)

    Thank you for that visual - refuse to watch them (none / 0) (#233)
    by Boo Radly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:44:05 PM EST
    They are an insult to any intelligent person.

    This is thrilling - there is hope. Americans are not lemmings.

    I am smiling and laughing for the first time in a long time.

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    Obama crowd bored (5.00 / 1) (#215)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:25:04 PM EST
    What a contrast to Hillary's crowd!  He's launched into his oft repeated stump speech.  BOOOORRRRRING.  

    Crowd's ok (none / 0) (#225)
    by DFLer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:23 PM EST
    loud applause.....no booing...Minnesota nice...

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    Denver or BUST! (5.00 / 3) (#224)
    by AX10 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:29:13 PM EST
    Who's with me?

    Please count me in! On to Denver (5.00 / 2) (#234)
    by RalphB on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:47:00 PM EST


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    What I want (5.00 / 2) (#231)
    by Foxx on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:39:27 PM EST
    Do not accept VP, it is an insult. She can do much more elsewhere.

    Do not concede. There is a very good chance Obama is going to crash.

    God, this is a travesty. (4.76 / 17) (#12)
    by masslib on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:07 PM EST
    She has the popular vote.  She's the stronger candidate.  Why the heck is the establishment doing this?

    My very disheartened answer... (4.73 / 15) (#18)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:59 PM EST
    because she is a woman, and the establishment obviously still has issues with a strong woman who is better at things than they are.

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    And I just got my DNC survey today. (5.00 / 1) (#173)
    by BarnBabe on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:25 PM EST
    I am telling them how I feel as if someone will really read this and of course, sending no money.

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    Apparently (5.00 / 3) (#180)
    by Cate on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:24 PM EST
    ...the Presidency is 'for sale'. Speaking of money, BTW, I just went to her website and donated more money.

    I told her in a message that I was behind her all the way....I don't agree that she should accept the VP - but I listened to McCain this afternoon and my heart broke to think of voting for him. I have never felt such despair.

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    LOL! Amen. (5.00 / 1) (#212)
    by madamab on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:22:22 PM EST
    No way, no WAY will I ever vote McCain. After 30 seconds of listening to him, I was ready to pass out from boredom.

    He is a maundering fool. No economic plan, no health care plan. Please tell me Hillary is going to the Convention, because Lordy Lordy, I cannot stand four more years of this Republican nonsense.  

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    Our party and the media (5.00 / 2) (#187)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:17 PM EST
    They decided months ago that Obama would be the nominee.  They didn't care at all what the people wanted or how they voted.  They don't even care that he can't win in November.  Their in luv...........The democrat party bigwigs and the MSM gave this to Obama.  Blame them.  

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    Yep (none / 0) (#129)
    by chrisvee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:27 PM EST
    It's all about the benjamins.  The party thinks they've solved their fundraising problems.  And they want that youth vote.

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    Ha! They can whistle for it after the (5.00 / 3) (#184)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:10:18 PM EST
    way they treated Hillary.

    This is the same mistake Naral made -- younger donors are notoriously fickle and difficult to keep.  You just don't sacrifice your base supporters for a chance at big $ down the line.

    But they gambled anyway.  We'll see how much of that $ sticks around.

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    Ashamed to admit this (none / 0) (#235)
    by Iris on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:53:21 PM EST
    but I donated to Obama's campaign early on.  Oh, how I wish I could get a refund!

    I probably would have voted for him in January, too, but thankfully by the time Kentucky's primary rolled around I had long since woken up.

    I will never donate another penny to Barack Obama, and certainly not to the DNC in its current form.

    So there's one car in the money train that has dried up...

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    That has been my conclusion also (none / 0) (#181)
    by ruffian on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:29 PM EST
    The built-in resistance to a Clinton 'dynasty' (hate that word) was part of it too, but where money is a factor, you can usually count on it being the predominant factor.

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    No one can take away the (4.71 / 14) (#10)
    by bjorn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:38:56 PM EST
    fact that more people voted for her.  I don't care that his name wasn't on the ballot in MI, the fact is still true!

    Got her point in, MORE VOTES (4.63 / 11) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:38:21 PM EST


    That's a pretty strong argument (5.00 / 1) (#171)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:15 PM EST
    If Obama doesn't give her the VP, he's totally screwed.  He cannot expect to win without her pulling in Ohio, West Virginia, and PA.  

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    She also hit on the 270 (4.50 / 8) (#23)
    by cawaltz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:41 PM EST
    elecoral vote thing. She's trying to remind them this isn't the end game.

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    We carried the popular vote (4.63 / 11) (#13)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:39:11 PM EST
    with more votes than any primary candidate in history.

    Taking a shot as pundits who said race was over in past. Crowd boos.

    False (5.00 / 3) (#33)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:43:02 PM EST
    Careful, all. I think we have a blogclogger here.

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    I zapped him (5.00 / 2) (#108)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:51 PM EST
    he's gone.

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    But I turned him into a newt (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:19 PM EST


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    Thanks, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#165)
    by Paul F Villarreal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:40 PM EST
    :)

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    Drive-by Uno bomber too (none / 0) (#90)
    by otherlisa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:32 PM EST


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    In case you missed it (5.00 / 4) (#36)
    by standingup on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:44:17 PM EST
    Jeralyn's message from an earlier post this evening:

    Whether you are elated, angry or sad tonight, do us all a favor and show each other and our candidates a little respect.

    Personal attacks, name-calling and insults are not welcome here. They will be deleted as fast as we spot them.

    Traffic is high, our servers are maxed. Don't be a blogclogger. Share your opinion, your joy or your anguish -- we want to hear it -- but do so respectfully and with consideration for those who hold opposing points of view.

    If you can't do that, please comment at another site.
    (my emphasis added)



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    You keep repeating to (4.20 / 5) (#30)
    by cawaltz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:42:32 PM EST
    yourself that it is Hillary's fault Obama took his name off that ballot andhad to be given her delegates as a consequence. LOL

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    I'd ask you what I've asked others... (none / 0) (#111)
    by pb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:56:07 PM EST
    ...who've said it's Obama's own fault for taking his name off the ballot in MI:

    Why disenfranchise voters who wanted to support him for something totally beyond their control?  You can complain about Obama's tactics, but what do they have to do with ignoring the will of voters in MI?

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    They were disenfranchised by Obama (5.00 / 2) (#140)
    by JDM in NYC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:16 PM EST
    himself when he took himself off the ballot.

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    For political reasons (5.00 / 1) (#194)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:13:57 PM EST
    When Obama saw that he couldn't win in MI, he took his ball and went home.  Once again, not caring about the voters in that state.  

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    You asked... (5.00 / 4) (#154)
    by Romberry on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:04:43 PM EST
    You asked "Why disenfranchise voters who wanted to support him for something totally beyond their control?"

    My suggestion? Ask Obama. He's the one that did it. You can't "disenfrachise" someone from a vote that was impossible to cast. And you can't award votes to someone who did not earn them. But like I said, the person to ask about denying people the chance to vote for Obama in Michigan would be...Barack Obama.

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    You missed my point (5.00 / 4) (#169)
    by cawaltz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:07:46 PM EST
    My post was in respose to the poster who made the claim MI was unfair. The truth is that Michigan only was unfair as a result of Obama pulling himself off that ballot. Furthermore, if we want to talk about unfair, unfairis having delegates you EARNED apportioned to the loser as a result of his political decision to remove himself.

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    I want to vote for my dad for President (none / 0) (#222)
    by Evie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:28:10 PM EST
    Am I disenfrancised if he's not on the ballot?

    Of course, my dad never put his name on the ballot, but regardless, they're ignoring my will as a voter!

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    NO (4.20 / 5) (#67)
    by Monda on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:49:49 PM EST
    Decision tonight :)

    HIllary speech (3.00 / 1) (#91)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:53:45 PM EST
    What ever path I choose next...  That's an indicator that it won't be fighting for presidency.

    OR (5.00 / 3) (#110)
    by vicsan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:58 PM EST
    she could be choosing her next path which leads to DENVER....baby!!!!!

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    Tina Turner? (none / 0) (#103)
    by DaveOinSF on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:55:01 PM EST


    That would be the (none / 0) (#124)
    by pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58:44 PM EST
    wrong thing.

    He can't compare to her.

    KO...and the pundits are clueless (none / 0) (#130)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:51 PM EST


    A cliffhanger (none / 0) (#131)
    by Oceandweller on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:59:59 PM EST
    and for all we know tomorrow morning a nasty hangover who anyone who gloated last night
    the game is afoot
    and the only winner is McCain
    methinks some people like to play with fire
    lets hope that burns mend before november

    Whomever (none / 0) (#138)
    by mkevinf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:00 PM EST
    you decide to vote for in November, irrespective of whether or not Hillary is our nominee, wear your Hillary button to the polls, so that on November 4th, 2008 the power of Hillary Clinton's devotion and loyalty to her supporters will be, in a small way on what might be a difficult day, a way of saying "Thank you, Hillary.  And to the rest of you, we're still here and so is she!"

    I plan to right her in (5.00 / 1) (#172)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:22 PM EST
    As a big thank you, but hopefully she will be the one on the ballot (yes, yes, I am clinging bitterly).

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    Excellent idea, I shall adopt it. n/t (none / 0) (#205)
    by Valhalla on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:17:58 PM EST


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    Super Delegates mean NOTHING (none / 0) (#142)
    by vicsan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:01:37 PM EST
    until they vote at the convention. Obama anointed himself the nominee today and she just put the breaks on him. He is not the nominee yet. Votes have not been cast and won't be until August.

    A little incoherent (none / 0) (#159)
    by mkevinf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:00 PM EST
    there; what I meant was "the power of our
    devotion and loyalty to Hillary Clinton will be, in a small way on what might be a difficult day, our way of saying, "Thank you, Hillary.  And to the rest of you, we're still here, and so is she!"

    I just loved the way she segued into the (none / 0) (#160)
    by Angel on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:14 PM EST
    "what do I want" thing to the "what do you want" thing.  DENVER!  yeah, baby

    Does Obama's (none / 0) (#161)
    by OldCoastie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:22 PM EST
    crowd look pretty subdued?

    Did I hear right? Mondale conceded there? (none / 0) (#182)
    by nycstray on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:42 PM EST
    He is surrounded by losers and is grabbing the nom where Mondale conceded?!

    I need a drink.

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    As a feminist I can only say (none / 0) (#164)
    by Redshoes on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:37 PM EST
    THANK YOU.  

    HUH (none / 0) (#236)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:04:55 PM EST
    Are you referring to HIllary stepping down?  Well as a feminist to another modern feminist (myself), I disagree with you.  The difference between the old and new, we don't care about the pressures of society, especially other women putting us down. If we want to increase our breast, we don't care about what society of old feminist tell us.  We are independent and can make a decision without the influence of men and women acting like men.

    Thank you sweetie!

    Hillary Rocks!

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    HUH (none / 0) (#237)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:05:49 PM EST
    Are you referring to HIllary stepping down?  Well as a feminist to another modern feminist (myself), I disagree with you.  The difference between the old and new, we don't care about the pressures of society, especially other women putting us down. If we want to increase our breast, we don't care about what society of old feminist tell us.  We are independent and can make a decision without the influence of men and women acting like men.

    Thank you sweetie!

    Hillary Rocks!

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    How moronic (none / 0) (#166)
    by lilburro on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:06:46 PM EST
    that people want her to go out immediately, rather than gracefully.  Do they not see the importance of her striking the right tone when she concedes?  Her speech is about the American people and healthcare.  Making that the legacy of the campaign will only strengthen the Dem Party in November IMO.  The more attention our healthcare crisis recieves, the more likely Dems will succeed.  Republicans can't compete with Dems as far as healthcare goes.

    Edwards' exit was well done.  I think Hillary's should be and will be that graceful, despite the media's shamelessness.

    What perfect (none / 0) (#168)
    by LoisInCo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:07:39 PM EST
    innoculation to the west wing writer created, empty TelePrompTor reading , unity pony whipping speech that is up next.

    Had to turn to Tweetyland (none / 0) (#170)
    by kmblue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:08:07 PM EST
    Just to watch Olbermann and Punkinhead sputter.
    So sweet!

    The best people are usually lonely (none / 0) (#179)
    by Marvin42 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:09:23 PM EST
    I have found "popular" people to be usually pretty worthless.

    Lonely? I doubt it. (none / 0) (#189)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:11:32 PM EST


    I am happy she did not give up tonight, but (none / 0) (#198)
    by kenosharick on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:35 PM EST
    think she will suspend in the next few days. And then the Democratic Party will start to see what a terrible mistake they made. When does the full frontal repub attack start? Tommrrow? Or after convention?

    McCain's campaign started tonight (none / 0) (#210)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:21:48 PM EST


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    i think what she was saying (none / 0) (#199)
    by badu on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:15:50 PM EST
    was that she wants him to push for Universal HealthCare on his platform.

    No, (none / 0) (#203)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:16:58 PM EST
    the party was already divided.  The only thing that is keeping some people from completely kissing off the party is that she is there.

    Stop blaming her for dividing the party.  There were many players in that division.

    Obama's speech (none / 0) (#204)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:17:19 PM EST
    So, Obama's grandma didn't die when he threw her under the bus because she just thanked her for raising him.

    Does Obama not know what HRC said tonight? (none / 0) (#208)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:20:45 PM EST
    He sounds like he doesn't know that she didn't drop out.  

    Poor Senator Obama. (5.00 / 2) (#214)
    by kmblue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:22:50 PM EST
    No time for rewrites. ;)

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    you understand nothing (none / 0) (#216)
    by DFLer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:25:31 PM EST
    about grace, holding a moment, holding up her supporters and moving on to the next thing....in a few days!

    cripes...don't you see that?

    Why are they watching themselves on the ceiling (none / 0) (#218)
    by SueBonnetSue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:26:09 PM EST
    Rather than listening and watching the man in front of them?  

    LOSS of the nomination? (none / 0) (#226)
    by JDM in NYC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:31:15 PM EST
    Wow- did my clock stop? It says it's June 3rd- is it really the end of August? I had no idea.

    Lonely? Not so much (none / 0) (#228)
    by ap in avl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:34:38 PM EST
    I know they'll have me!!!!

    Incredible Speech (none / 0) (#240)
    by Terry M on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:30:24 PM EST
    from an incredible candidate!  She just gets better and better, and I hope and pray that her 18 million supporters will continue to fight for her as she is fighting.

    Never surrender! On to Denver!  

    UHC and "No decisions tonight" (none / 0) (#241)
    by jfung79 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 03:42:50 AM EST
    UHC and "No decisions tonight" and the great crowd.  Those are the three main things I come away with.

    I saw the speech in the cafeteria at work ... It was great ... I love how much she emphasized universal healthcare (which she has been working for for "16 years not 16 months"!) and know she will continue to fight for it ...

    I clapped out loud in a crowded cafeteria when she said she would be making no decisions tonight!

    I'm glad she asked for our views.  That's one of her strengths, that she listens.  I will go definitely go to the website and tell her we need for her to stay in until Denver.  

    I really fear the Democratic Party will be committing political suicide by nominating Obama.

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