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Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment

I'm not big on expending time and energy on impeaching Bush and Cheney. They'll be gone soon enough and I'd rather spend my time arguing against McCain and another four years of the same.

Nonetheless, the articles of impeachment are an important read as a reminder of the crimes perpetrated by the Bush Admnistration and as a warning that they should never again be tolerated. The full text of the 35 articles is available here (pdf). You can sign a petition to support them here.

For more, check out AfterDowningStreet, Kucinich.us (temporarily on server overload)and Democrats.com

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    I've (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:30:26 AM EST
    never been a huge fan of Kucinich but at least he's bringing these issues to the forefront. It's certainly not going to make much of a difference though.

    A certain satisfaction. (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by Salo on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:30:39 AM EST
    Good for Dennis.  Bush deserves articles of impeachment at the very least.

    Should have been done long ago (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Lora on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:31:03 AM EST
    I'm signing.  One leader in this country has guts.  I'm supporting him.

    Warning (none / 0) (#12)
    by Lora on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:42:53 AM EST
    That is, I attempted to sign.  After I clicked "submit," my page was filled with something like, "Warning--SQL server" and a bunch of code.  Anybady know what happened?

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    At least (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by Mrwirez on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:31:47 AM EST
    it shows that someone had the guts to denounce the Bush crimes for the House records... Right?

    Why Why Why (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Mrwirez on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:39:38 AM EST
    did the 2006 Dems "take impeachment off the table"?? I think the world would have given us a pass on some of the atrocities of the Bush administration. If it was a purely political move, it was dumb. Imo, I think Pelosi and the dems made a deal with Bush quid pro quo. What that was, I have NO idea.

    I think (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:41:29 AM EST
    their failure to do anything on this account alone could cost Obama the election in Nov. People gave Dems in congress the power to act and they did nothing.

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    Pelosi was being a typical overcautious (5.00 / 4) (#17)
    by brodie on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:57:14 AM EST
    Dem with her sweeping statement ruling out impeachment.  She was much too concerned about the alleged Repub backlash in the 06 elections with all those legions of fervent Bush defenders showing up to spoil the Dems chances.

    She should have stuck with something closer to, We intend to investigate certain activities re Bush admin conduct, both in terms of domestic affairs and foreign policy, and we'll conduct ourselves responsibly as per our Constitutional responsibility to provide checks and balances and oversight on the Executive.  It would be irresponsible to completely rule out certain outcomes before the facts are gathered just as it would be irresponsible to call for impeachment before any evidence is obtained.

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    Because we (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by eric on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12:21 PM EST
    are living in a Bizarro World.  A crazy world where even though Bush is terribly unpopular, he still has the support of the media, who would not care too much for impeachment.

    I was listening to NPR this morning and the host was interviewing a reporter who was covering Bush's trip to Europe.  The host seemed absolutely oblivious to the reality that Bush is not well recieved in Europe.  She was suprised that there wasn't more "nostalgia" toward Bush as this is probably his last meeting with many of these leaders.

    Nostalgia?  Gimme a break.  The on-site reporter (presumably a European correspondent) almost laughed.  Not the host.  Bush has a 20-someting percent approval rating here in the US, can you imagine what it is in Europe?

    But the media here don't get it.  They really don't.  If you tried to impeach, they would be hostile....how dare you question Bush, he's our wartime leader!

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    Yes A Political Move (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 05:12:56 PM EST
    And an intelligent one not based on mob emotions, but on math and weighing political capitol.  Remember the Libby trial, and how lightly Fitz tread. He could have added many other charges with the evidence he had. Why did he not go for it? Because he was being intelligent and wanted to win his case. Had he gone farther the case would have failed due to secrecy laws shutting down the trial, aka greymail.

    Greymail tactics, and claims of executive priviledge would have bogged down impeachment past the 08 elections and thus ended it. But that is even a moot point because the math is and was never there to actually bring an impeachment to fruition.

    A big waste of time, and diversion for a very important election. Pelosi knew that the GOP was almost begging for it because it would cost the Democratic party the election in November.

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    Might have some quaint legalities here. (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by wurman on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:40:01 AM EST
    Does the fact that Rep. Kucinich introduced these articles make it a "case" & consequently preclude Pres. Bu$h from pardoning himself & V-P Cheney???
    US Constitution, part of Article II.
    The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.


    nice catch (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:47:51 AM EST
    I'll bet there are no cases on it. So it would become a SCOTUS call.

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    The Hague is (5.00 / 5) (#13)
    by jondee on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:44:13 AM EST
    more like it.

    I will never forgive Pelosi (5.00 / 5) (#21)
    by miriam on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:25:49 PM EST
    for refusing to consider impeachment.  All the Dems seemed to be interested in was winning this next election.  The impeachment clause was written into the Constitution for a damn good reason: to keep the country safe from those precisely like Bush and Cheney who would subvert it.  If anyone deserved to be impeached it was Bush for lying the country into war.  What high crime and misdemeanor could possibly be worse?  (Oh, yes, I forgot--an affair with an of-age intern.)  By failing to act, the Democrats have rendered the Impeachment Clause toothless.  And Pelosi et al irresponsibly gave up the opportunity to rein in Bush, preventing him from yet another disastrous idiotic act like bombing Iran...which I still think he will do before he leaves office.  

    Dispelling Jeralyn's myths of impeachment (5.00 / 4) (#22)
    by ctrenta on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:00:42 PM EST
    With all due respect to Jeralyn, I have to disagree with her statement that impeachment should not be done because "they'll be gone in November anyway." Here's the facts:

    If Bush is not impeached for his actions before leaving office then the next President will inherit his expanded powers. It will be nearly impossible to impeach a future President who commits the same crimes.

    Bush has severely damaged America's reputation in the international community. Impeachment will send a message to other countries that America rejects his aggressive policies.

    As of now, Bush and Cheney have six months months left in office. Bush can do an incredible amount of damage, even start a war with Iran, in the time he has left.

    If we don't do something to stop this, it sends a message to future leaders that they too can get away with even greater harms to our government and our constitution.

    Jeralyn also says it's more important to focus on beating McCain. True. But the Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time! They can campaign for Obama and hold hearings. In fact, history shows the party that impeaches is the party that does well in the next election.

    Many polls show a majority of Americans favor impeachment.
    More than 70% of democrats and a majority of all Americans favor impeachment. 88% of Democrats in Pennsylvania favor impeachment. It may be political suicide to be on the wrong side of this issue. [AmResGrp] [Zogby] [Polls]

    Only 57% of Republicans opposed censure in a March 15 poll by American Research Group. 23% of Republicans supported impeachment according to a January 2006 Zogby poll. Contrary to claims that have been made, impeachment will not galvanize the Republican base. Many Republicans oppose Bush.

    History shows that pursuing impeachment can help in the next election. Democrats won in a landslide in the election after drafting Articles of Impeachment against Nixon. (Nixon resigned before he could be officially impeached.)

    When the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton, against the will of the people, they kept both houses of Congress and the White House, losing only a handful of seats in the Senate (which had acquitted), but maintaining the same majority in the House. In addition, Republicans won the election of 1868 shortly after leading the impeachment of Andrew Johnson.

    Many Democrats believe that push for impeachment then it might force John McCain to take unpopular positions supporting Bush. The Democratic victory in 2004 was considered to be largely a referendum against Bush. Impeaching Bush in 2008 could help build on that victory.

    Legislators take an oath to protect the Constitution so it is their duty to protect it from Bush's crimes by calling for impeachment regardless of the political consequences.

    For more info on this evidence, read John Nichols "The Genius of Impeachment."

    Plus the Repubs (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by mg7505 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 06:51:28 PM EST
    impeached Clinton not too long before he was scheduled to leave office, right? The only statue of limitations re: impeachment is that the POTUS has to be in office, right?

    More power to Kucinich for showing Dems how to be "tough on crime" -- Bush's crime.

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    War crimes tribunal (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Andreas on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:55:35 PM EST
    The WSWS in May 2008 wrote:

    What is demanded is not another toothless congressional hearing, but rather the constitution of a war crimes tribunal. Those responsible must be held accountable.

    Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, Tenet and Ashcroft should be placed on trial. Those like former White House counsel and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington and Justice Department deputy assistant secretary John Yoo, who crafted the pseudo-legal arguments legitimizing torture, should be prosecuted as well, together with those military and intelligence officials who directed the criminal practices at Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other CIA and military camps and prisons.

    The Democratic leadership has no desire or intention to fight for such a reckoning. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other party leaders have repeatedly insisted that impeachment of the president and vice president is "off the table." They have no interest in pursuing the administration on the issue of torture because they themselves are complicit, with Pelosi and other senior congressional Democrats having been briefed extensively on the criminal methods employed at Guantánamo, which they approved and concealed from the American people.

    On a more fundamental level, the Democrats have been complicit in a policy of global militarism and aggression--carried out under the mantle of a "global war on terrorism"--which is directed at using armed force to further the interests of America's ruling oligarchy. It is this criminal strategy--resulting in the loss of over 1 million Iraqi lives--that has given rise to the crime of torture itself.

    Nonetheless, the deepening crisis of American capitalism is creating the conditions for profound shocks and changes in political and social relations that may well result in Bush, Cheney and Co. standing in the dock as war criminals.

    Such a trial is vitally necessary from the standpoint of halting these ongoing crimes, preventing the use of similar methods against political opposition within the US itself and politically educating the American people.

    FBI files indict Bush, Cheney and Co. as war criminals
    By Bill Van Auken, 23 May 2008

    House Democrats kill resolution to impeach Bush (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Andreas on Wed Jun 11, 2008 at 11:22:33 PM EST
    The WSWS writes:

    In a display of parliamentary maneuvering that combined cynicism and cowardice, Democratic members of the US House of Representatives voted unanimously to kill an impeachment resolution against President Bush introduced by Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio.

    Kucinich himself participated fully in the farce...

    The 251-166 margin of the vote, held on a roll call Wednesday, saw all 227 Democrats--including Kucinich and his lone co-sponsor, Robert Wexler of Florida--joined by 24 Republicans move to dispose of the resolution. Voting against were 166 Republicans, who sought to force a debate on impeachment for the purpose of embarrassing the Democratic Party leadership....

    The Democratic leadership opposes impeachment not on legal, but on political and class grounds. They are well aware that the adoption of an impeachment resolution against Bush and Cheney, regardless of the outcome of a Senate trial, would deal a major blow against the White House as an institution and undermine the legitimacy of all Bush's actions as "commander-in-chief," especially in the war in Iraq.

    It would also inevitably raise the question of who in Congress was complicit with Bush's criminal conduct over the past seven years--tarring Democrats as well as Republicans, since a majority of Senate Democrats and a large number of House Democrats voted for the Iraq war resolution in 2002.

    House Democrats kill resolution to impeach Bush
    By Patrick Martin, 12 June 2008

    A bit late (4.00 / 1) (#5)
    by sister of ye on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:31:48 AM EST
    I was all for impeaching Bush and Cheney 1-1/2 years ago, when it might have done some good. The only good I can see it doing at this late date is possibly distracting them from waging war on Iran.

    Not that Congress will act on it anyway.

    Anything... (4.00 / 1) (#18)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:05:33 PM EST
    ...that could potentially keep those crazy SOB's from bombing Iran is OK in my book.

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    Nah, all that says, as I read it, (4.00 / 1) (#16)
    by brodie on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:49:57 AM EST
    is that the Pres cannot short-circuit the Impeachment process with a preemptive pardon/reprieve for himself or other exec branch officials to prevent being removed from office.

    Dennis should be able to fill the coffers (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:37:28 AM EST
    for the next few election cycles based on this.

    hehehe (none / 0) (#14)
    by Salo on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:44:31 AM EST
    a gold stud for Liz.

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    well (none / 0) (#8)
    by Chisoxy on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:39:06 AM EST
    I cant give props to something that shouldve been done long ago. Why wouldnt he push this early in his run for the presidency? I like Kucinich, but what gives.


    sounds (none / 0) (#20)
    by shoulin4 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 12:22:00 PM EST
    interesting. Though, this should have been done years ago.

    Bush Lied? (none / 0) (#24)
    by Counselor on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 03:55:40 PM EST
    Liberals truly are amazing in their capacity to ignore facts -- 'feeling' their way through problems and situations, rather than using logic and reason based on factual information.

    Please read the following by a respected authority on Middle Eastern affairs.  Also, please feel free to go back and read the myriad articles and proceedings leading up to the war and as well as Clinton Administration intelligence regarding Iraq.

    I welcome your feedback.

    =======

    Why We Went to Iraq
    By FOUAD AJAMI
    June 4, 2008; Page A21
    Of all that has been written about the play of things in Iraq, nothing that I have seen approximates the truth of what our ambassador to Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, recently said of this war: "In the end, how we leave and what we leave behind will be more important than how we came."

    It is odd, then, that critics have launched a new attack on the origins of the war at precisely the time a new order in Iraq is taking hold. But American liberal opinion is obsessive today. Scott McClellan can't be accused of strategic thinking, but he has been anointed a peer of Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft. A witness and a presumed insider - a "Texas loyalist" - has "flipped."

    Mr. McClellan wades into the deep question of whether this war was a war of "necessity" or a war of "choice." He does so in the sixth year of the war, at a time when many have forgotten what was thought and said before its onset. The nation was gripped by legitimate concern over gathering dangers in the aftermath of 9/11. Kabul and the war against the Taliban had not sufficed, for those were Arabs who struck America on 9/11. A war of deterrence had to be waged against Arab radicalism, and Saddam Hussein had drawn the short straw. He had not ducked, he had not scurried for cover. He openly mocked America's grief, taunted its power.

    We don't need to overwork the stereotype that Arabs understand and respond to the logic of force, but this is a region sensitive to the wind, and to the will of outside powers. Before America struck into Iraq, a mere 18 months after 9/11, there had been glee in the Arab world, a sense that America had gotten its comeuppance. There were regimes hunkering down, feigning friendship with America while aiding and abetting the forces of terror.

    Liberal opinion in America and Europe may have scoffed when President Bush drew a strict moral line between order and radicalism - he even inserted into the political vocabulary the unfashionable notion of evil - but this sort of clarity is in the nature of things in that Greater Middle East. It is in categories of good and evil that men and women in those lands describe their world. The unyielding campaign waged by this president made a deep impression on them.

    Nowadays, we hear many who have never had a kind word to say about the Iraq War pronounce on the retreat of the jihadists. It is as though the Islamists had gone back to their texts and returned with second thoughts about their violent utopia. It is as though the financiers and the "charities" that aided the terror had reconsidered their loyalties and opted out of that sly, cynical trade. Nothing could be further from the truth. If Islamism is on the ropes, if the regimes in the saddle in key Arab states now show greater resolve in taking on the forces of radicalism, no small credit ought to be given to this American project in Iraq.

    We should give the "theorists" of terror their due and read them with some discernment. To a man, they have told us that they have been bloodied in Iraq, that they have been surprised by the stoicism of the Americans, by the staying power of the Bush administration.

    There is no way of convincing a certain segment of opinion that there are indeed wars of "necessity." A case can always be made that an aggressor ought to be given what he seeks, that the costs of war are prohibitively high when measured against the murky ways of peace and of daily life.

    "Wars are not self-starting," the noted philosopher Michael Walzer wrote in his seminal book, "Just and Unjust Wars." "They may 'break out,' like an accidental fire, under conditions difficult to analyze and where the attribution of responsibility seems impossible. But usually they are more like arson than accident: war has human agents as well as human victims."

    Fair enough. In the narrow sense of command and power, this war in Iraq is Mr. Bush's war. But it is an evasion of responsibility to leave this war at his doorstep. This was a war fought with congressional authorization, with the warrant of popular acceptance, and the sanction of United Nations resolutions which called for Iraq's disarmament. It is the political good fortune (in the world of Democratic Party activists) that Sen. Barack Obama was spared the burden of a vote in the United States Senate to authorize the war. By his telling, he would have us believe that he would have cast a vote against it. But there is no sure way of knowing whether he would have stood up to the wind.

    With the luxury of hindsight, the critics of the war now depict the arguments made for it as a case of manipulation and deceit. This is odd and misplaced: The claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were to prove incorrect, but they were made in good faith.

    It is also obtuse and willful to depict in dark colors the effort made to "sell" the war. Wars can't be waged in stealth, and making the moral case for them is an obligation incumbent on the leaders who launch them. If anything, there were stretches of time, and critical turning points, when the administration abdicated the fight for public opinion.

    Nor is there anything unprecedented, or particularly dishonest, about the way the rationale for the war shifted when the hunt for weapons of mass destruction had run aground. True, the goal of a democratic Iraq - and the broader agenda of the war as a spearhead of "reform" in Arab and Muslim lands - emerged a year or so after the onset of the war. But the aims of practically every war always shift with the course of combat, and with historical circumstances. Need we recall that the abolition of slavery had not been an "original" war aim, and that the Emancipation Proclamation was, by Lincoln's own admission, a product of circumstances? A war for the Union had become a victory for abolitionism.

    America had not been prepared for nation-building in Iraq; we had not known Iraq and Iraqis or understood the depth of Iraq's breakdown. But there was nothing so startling or unusual about the connection George W. Bush made between American security and the "reform" of the Arab condition. As America's pact with the Arab autocrats had hatched a monster, it was logical and prudent to look for a new way.

    "When a calf falls, a thousand knives flash," goes an Arabic proverb. The authority of this administration is ebbing away, the war in Iraq is unloved, and even the "loyalists" now see these years of panic and peril as a time of exaggerated fear.

    It is not easy to tell people of threats and dangers they have been spared. The war put on notice regimes and conspirators who had harbored dark thoughts about America and who, in the course of the 1990s, were led to believe that terrible deeds against America would go unpunished. A different lesson was taught in Iraq. Nowadays, the burden of the war, in blood and treasure, is easy to see, while the gains, subtle and real, are harder to demonstrate. Last month, American casualties in Iraq were at their lowest since 2003. The Sunnis also have broken with al Qaeda, and the Shiite-led government has taken the war to the Mahdi Army: Is it any wonder that the critics have returned to the origins of the war?

    Five months from now, the American public will vote on this war, in the most dramatic and definitive of ways. There will be people who heed Ambassador Crocker's admonition. And there will be others keen on retelling how we made our way to Iraq.

    Mr. Ajami, a Bradley Prize recipient, teaches at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author of "The Foreigner's Gift" (Free Press, 2006).

    It's not a zero-sum game. (none / 0) (#27)
    by mg7505 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 06:54:31 PM EST
    Doing this won't impede other legislative efforts. Heck, maybe it'll even help those move forward because they won't seem so partisan/radical after an impeachment attempt.

    sometimes you just have to do right thing (none / 0) (#28)
    by thereyougo on Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 11:27:35 PM EST
    and forget about the political implications.

    I understand some of Pelosi's motives, that there were democrats who knew of the torture memos, and some of the intelligence, being complicit in the crimes that Bush pushed for war.

    I fully support the inquiry and indictment, the country requires it. Its should not be put off because "oh they're leaving anyway."

    come on Jeralyn, I have more respect for your fine legal mind. WE NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE like some said above me.

    Is there ever a right time to the right thing?