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Ben Nelson To Endorse Obama

Now this is a predictable development as Ben Nelson is the king of bipartisanship, voting with Republicans more than any other Democrat:
Nebraska U.S. Sen. Ben Nelson plans to make an announcement on Saturday morning that his spokesman said has national implications.
Again, the national implications for me are not positive for Obama, they are negative. I am glad that Ben Nelson is a Democrat and coming from Nebraska, I doubt we could get someone better, but Nelson's views are NOT what I want for the Democratic Party. It wil be interesting to see how Nelson explains his support for Obama. I imagine the reachout unity schtick will be the explanation. I personally do not want that for the Democratic Party. Remember, Ben Nelson endorsed Joe Lieberman as an INDEPENDENT in the Connecticut Senate race in 2006.
Update [2008-1-12 13:15:14 by Big Tent Democrat]: Uh Oh:
Nelson, a popular moderate in largely Republican Nebraska, said Obama has "the greatest potential to ending the bitterness and poisonous atmosphere in Washington." Nelson said Obama's victory speech in Iowa was an effort to reach out to Democrats, independents and "enlightened Republicans," and that Obama epitomizes what Nelson has tried to do in Washington. Obama is the "prototype of what we need today," Nelson said.
Ay yay yay.

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    Can you refuse an endorsement? (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 04:41:40 PM EST


    Do you ask this because Gary Hart (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 04:58:27 PM EST
    also endorsed Barack Obama?

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    You're such a brat (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 05:15:26 PM EST
    I was just wondering what he's going to do with obvious Ken Nighthorse Salazar endorsement he has coming his way next ;)  I mean, shouldn't the scale be able to measure something? This is way too much feng shui for me.

    Parent
    I think I'll just wait until the (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 05:18:15 PM EST
    very day of the CA primary to decide, based on which candidate, if any, manages to stay above the fray of racism and sexism.  According to Aaron, Newt Gingrich just uttered some kind words about Hillary Clinton.  That should be the kiss of death for her amongst Dems.  

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    Above the fray huh? (none / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 05:54:48 PM EST
    You're an above the fray girl?  I like the fray.  I shower a lot ;)

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    No, its just I took the candidate preference (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 05:59:01 PM EST
    poll linked in Jeralyn's post yesterday and found out Edwards, Clinton, and Obama are almost in a dead heat on the issues I care about.  

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    I just took it (none / 0) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 08:31:43 PM EST
    void the misogyny stuff going on Hillary came in as my second choice on the issues that mattered for me and Obama third and drum roll please........my favorite Republican is Grampa Fred ;)  It must be the smell of his old spice.

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    Probably the Law and Order (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:59:55 PM EST
    silent majority support.  

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    I hope Salazar Does Endorse Obama (none / 0) (#32)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:44:42 PM EST
    Then Hillary won't be tempted to pick him for her VP candidate if she's nominated.

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    Per Wiki, Salazar's wife's (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:16:28 PM EST
    middle name is "Hope."  He's a lock.

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    Unfortunately (none / 0) (#1)
    by JayR70 on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:29:51 AM EST
    JRE is unlikely to win so a win by the least establishment of the establishment candidates is all one can hope for.

    You know nothing about Ben Nelson (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:33:36 AM EST
    do you?

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    I wasn't talking about Ben Nelson. (none / 0) (#3)
    by JayR70 on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:36:21 AM EST
    Just the reference to Obama's perceived capacity to be a triangulator rather than actual agent of change.

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:38:54 AM EST
    You believe Nelson is NOT a triangulator type? That he WANTS an agent of change?

    I repeat, you know very little about Ben Nelson apparently.

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    No. I understand what you're saying. (none / 0) (#6)
    by JayR70 on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:41:08 AM EST
    I also understand that Nelson misunderstands Obama's rhetoric. That's his problem not Obama's. Unless this will hurt his campaign of course.

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    It is a problem (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:46:08 AM EST
    for me.

    Can't speak for others.

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    Obama could be endorsed by the KKK (none / 0) (#8)
    by JayR70 on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:49:38 AM EST
    and I wouldn't care. I'd just laugh.

    Don't you think we have a pretty good picture of what the candidates are like based on their past history?

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    Yep (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:16:42 PM EST
    Nelson would be more right than me by that standard.

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    I'm sure he would be more right than me as well. (none / 0) (#14)
    by JayR70 on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:17:39 PM EST
    But what about JRE, HRC, & BHO?

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    what about them? (none / 0) (#15)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:22:22 PM EST
    This is the typical (none / 0) (#27)
    by Warren Terrer on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 05:24:20 PM EST
    Obamaniac answer - if a neocon or an unrepentant appeaser of the GOP finds Obama's rhetoric and style attractive, it MUST be because they misunderstand it. There can be no other explanation.

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    Gang of 14 was not triangulation? (none / 0) (#22)
    by kovie on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 04:06:31 PM EST
    If not for the GO14, we might not have Roberts and Alito on the court for the next 20-30 years. Dems like Nelson made it impossible for us to call Frist and Cheney's nukyular bluff and kick-start the backlash ahead of schedule.

    Of course, Obama and other Dems' refusal to filibuster them also had something to do with that. Almost a wash, really.

    Until Dems adopt the politics of conviction, we're going to have a hard time not only reversing the ravages of the past 27 years of conservative regression, but getting us back on a progressive path--which by definition is the only one that can move the country forward. The Nelson wing of the party is not about that, sadly, and Obama is not doing a very good job of convincing us that he is. I'd much rather see a Feingold or Gore endorsement than a Nelson or Johnson one.

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    I don't think this really matters (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:38:56 AM EST
    one way or another. No Democrat is going to win Nebraska, and their primary isn't until May, anyway.

    As to what it says about Obama. . .

    Per Local TV Station (none / 0) (#10)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:06:38 PM EST
    Nebraska Democrats will choose a presidential candidate Feb. 9, four days after 24 states hold their contests on Feb. 5.


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    Hmm (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:09:31 PM EST
    Are you saying the Nebraska Sec. of State(PDF) has it wrong?

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    Nelson On Obama (none / 0) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:04:50 PM EST
    Nelson, a popular moderate in largely Republican Nebraska, said Obama has "the greatest potential to ending the bitterness and poisonous atmosphere in Washington."

    Nelson said Obama's victory speech in Iowa was an effort to reach out to Democrats, independents and "enlightened Republicans," and that Obama epitomizes what Nelson has tried to do in Washington. [http://ketv.com/news/15032306/detail.html]




    Nelson is returning a favor (none / 0) (#12)
    by grouchonyy on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:14:28 PM EST
    Senator Obama came to Nebraska to campaign for the Democrats there. Nelson is responding in kind.

    trying to shrink the tent? (none / 0) (#16)
    by dsbnola on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:25:41 PM EST
    I can't believe y'all don't see this as a calculated play by the Clintons.  Don't any of y'all remember the Sister Soulja deal Bill pulled in 92?  Sheez, it's so freaking obvious.

    It's beyond the pale, and I'm astonished the Left is buying it.  

    Bill Clinton refuses to include the last sentence in that quote he's trotting around from Barack Obama's 2004 Meet the Press interview at the Democratic Convention, and he refused again to do so on the Al Sharpton radio show.

    And now with Hillary trying to claim she's above it all even after her horrible MLK-LBJ comparison, I can't stand her anymore (she's a DLC Democrat, basically, and she sure prefers the pronoun I over the pronoun we).  Yet.  Yet I'll vote for her if she's the nominee.  But Obama has my vote. Look at his record in the Illinois Senate. He actually succeeded in turning progressive ideas into legislation that--get this, here's the kicker, you won't believe it--passed (see Videotaping of Police Interrogations and Ethics Reform).


    Um (none / 0) (#17)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 12:28:02 PM EST
    The tent thing is done and buried. Get new material.

    But this about Ben Nelson's endorsement anyway.

     

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    Ben Nelson - UGH (none / 0) (#20)
    by BDB on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 03:46:05 PM EST
    He is part of the problem in D.C.   He's one of the reasons why nothing progressive ever gets done.  He's what I fear Obama will be - someone who sells out progressive interests at every turn in the name of bipartisanship.

    Of course, it's good politics for Obama to want this endorsement.  I'm sure Clinton wanted it, too.  A Senator is a Senator in an election year.  

    Still, the fact that so many of these kinds of Democrats seem to be embracing Obama is a bit worrisome.  Kind of like hearing Andrew Sullivan say how wonderful he is.  I automatically second guess my judgement about the things I like about Obama because these idiots love him.  

    Ugh (none / 0) (#21)
    by kovie on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 03:58:09 PM EST
    Senator Toupe should have endorsed Hillary if he really wanted to help Obama. Who next, Landrieu, Ford and Miller?

    And btw, I'm sick of how all these RW and faux centrist types abuse the term "bipartisan". All that it really means is being WILLING to work with the other side and compromise and negotiate with it when necessary and possible, not CAVING into it just to look cooperative and avoid a real fight (and perhaps get something on the side in the form of campaign donations and cushy post-political jobs on K street or the lecture, pundit and book writing circuit).

    When you TALK to the other side, you are being bipartisan. When you CAVE into it, you are being a shmuck (or worse). It's the other side that has refused to be bipartisan, not Dems, who've either stood their ground (while being willing to talk and come to REASONABLE and PRINCIPLED compromises)--and they've been in the minority--or caved into the other side. We need more tough, smart and principled Dems who are willing to talk to the other side because they know that they won't cave into it--i.e. genuine, not faux bipartisanship--and fewer faux bipartisan Dems--not to mention hyperpartisan Pubs.

    I.e. less Rove and Broder, more Feingold and Wellstone.

    Ben Nelson loves the unity pony! (none / 0) (#31)
    by lambert on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 11:22:35 PM EST
    Ponies for everybody!

    I love my pony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So who else was he going to endorse? (none / 0) (#33)
    by Alien Abductee on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 06:32:26 AM EST
    Kucinich?

    Remember, this is what Ben Nelson believes. It doesn't make it true. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

    I've been looking more at who's advising Obama on economic issues, and from that it seems he's going to be just more of the Republican-flavored same-old same-old. Then he starts talking like this and you've got to wonder:

    He told them how, after graduating from Harvard Law School, he "turned down a job on Wall Street" to spend "three and a half years doing what the men and women of Local 226 are doing right here today, and that is organizing and working and fighting to keep the American dream alive for all people, not just some people."

    He told of living on a pittance, with "holes in my shoes and holes in my car -- you all know what I'm talking about."

    That experience, he said, taught him the importance of bottom-up change, of unity in the face of power, of ignoring the odds.

    Obama hit on his themes of change, hope, and driving out the "fat cats" to clean up Washington; he speaks of wholesale upheaval, but also always emphasizes working together and finding ways for opposing parties to come to agreement, as if proposing a revolution that somehow wouldn't upset anyone.

    "I'm running because I don't want to do business as usual," he said.

    But that "proposing a revolution that somehow wouldn't upset anyone" is a perfect skewering of the problem with his message. No one can thread that needle.