Lindsay Lohan Gets 90 Days in Jail for Probation Violation

By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 06:02:49 PM EST
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Things did not go well for Lindsay Lohan in court today. At the end of a long hearing on a probation violation, she was sentenced to 90 days in jail, followed by 90 days of rehab. From a live blog:

Lindsay Lohan is now talking to the judge, she has begun to cry while she is defending herself. “This is my life, I’m taking this seriously, this is my life and my career that I have worked all my life for.”

- Judge Marsha Revel is now talking about the multiple times Lindsay has lied to both the court, police and others on past alcohol and cocaine use.

-Lindsay Lohan sentenced to 90 days in jail. Followed by 90 days in inpatient rehab. She’s crying like crazy.

She was given until July 20 to report and has to keep wearing her SCRAM bracelet until then. [More...]

Via the LA Times:

In considering her punishment, Revel said she considered whether Lohan violated her probation only for the actress' failure to attend some scheduled alcohol education classes, not because the alcohol-detection bracelet that Lohan was ordered to wear had been triggered following the MTV Movie Awards.

What was she on probation for? Driving under the influence of cocaine and reckless driving with a BAC of .08 (the legal threshhold for DUI.)

The case dates all the back to 2007, when Lohan was charged with DUI in two separate incidents. That August, Lohan's lawyer reached a plea deal in which the then-in-demand actress pleaded guilty to two counts of being under the influence of cocaine and no contest to reckless driving having a blood alcohol content of .08 percent. In exchange, she was to serve a day in jail (she ended up serving just over 80 minutes), do 10 days of community service and complete an alcohol education program.

90 days seems excessive. But it's a reminder that probation is no walk in the park. Probation is a sentence. It's filled with rules and regulations and it can last a long time. For those who with drug problems or issues with authority, it may not be the best resolution to a case. That's why Charlie Sheen tried so hard to get a plea deal that avoided probation, preferring to do 30 days in work release. His deal fell through, and he might want to consider whether serving 30 straight days, no work release, isn't preferable to a year or two of probation.

Question: Did the judge want to shock Lindsay to grab her attention? I won't be surprised if she reduces the sentence once she goes in.

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Overcrowding (5.00 / 0) (#3)
by waldenpond on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:07:17 PM EST

I doubt she'll do 90 days. She will probable get bumped early due to 'overcrowding'

Maybe her lawyer will encourage her to participate in a treatment program that is more regimented. Seems her program administrators did her no favors.

: True (none / 0) (#21)
by CoralGables on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:00:43 AM EST

Los Angeles County Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said women sent to jail for nonviolent crimes generally serve 25% or less of their sentence due to overcrowding.

Anti-Athority (1.00 / 0) (#24)
by squeaky on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:05:01 PM EST

One thing is that she went down in style... America needs more of that.

Anti-athority instinct, is the basis for keeping freedoms. I admire Lohan for her fingernail polish in the court room. I would not be surprised if she leaked the statement to a photographer.

Anti-authority instinct? How about just being a (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by Angel on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:53:06 PM EST

spoiled beyotch? Good grief. The girl was charged with a DUI. She continually flaunts her celebrity and acts like she's being picked on. Oh poor little Lindsey. Nope, don't feel one iota of sympathy for her. She brought this on herself.


Spoiled? (1.00 / 1) (#35)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:28:23 AM EST

Wow, sure has accomplished a lot in her short life time to be called a spoiled B*tch. You do not get to her level without being a hard worker and plenty of talent

Way more accomplishments than you can ever dream of achieving, I would bet.


Yes, spoiled. Doesn't want to take responsibility (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by Angel on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 03:09:17 PM EST

for her actions, ever. Continuously blames others for her behavour, etc. Literally gives the court the finger! Besides being spoiled she's immature.

And as far as my personal accomplishments, you would be surprised. I could fill walls with the awards and commendations I've received. I've twice been nominated for national level awards for my work. And I'm happy with my life so I consider that a wonderful success and accomplishment. You lose the bet, squeaky.

Your insolent comments are laughable.


OK (1.00 / 0) (#49)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 04:30:55 PM EST

We will compare your achievements in 30 or 40 years if you are still alive that is....

And just because she doesn't satisfy your fawning and groveling instinct to authority does not mean that she is "spoiled".

And spoiled b*tches as you put it, imagine that their achievements are wildly out of proportion (greater) than the attention they receive. Doesn't seem to be the case with Lohan:

Starring alongside Jamie Lee Curtis, Lindsay Lohan acted in another Disney remake of a novel, of a fantasy comedy called Freaky Friday in 2003. This was a huge box office hit around the globe generating over one hundred and sixty million dollars.
Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen and Mean Girls which was based around a group of teenager's in high school dealing with the highs and lows of teenage popularity. This comedy was extremely popular with Lindsay Lohan continually growing her fan base and grossed eighty six million dollars. Her strong career meant that she had earned the respect and status as a commercially bankable actress, and could now command a salary of seven and a half million dollars per film.
Lindsay Lohan has released a number of successful albums including her first debut album, Speak. This was released in December 2004 and peaked at number four on the Billboard two hundred and went Platinum in 2005.
In 2005 Lindsay Lohan returned with her second album titled A Little More Personal debuting at number twenty on the Billboard top two hundred. However, even though this second album was not critically acclaimed as the first it still went on to be certified Gold on January the 18th, 2006

Squeaky, give it up. I never said a word about (none / 0) (#52)
by Angel on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 06:08:43 PM EST

her talent,now did I? You continually try to put words in others' mouths to try to win an argument. I said she's a spoiled beyotch, she's immature, that she flaunts her celebrity and that she doesn't take responsibility for her actions. Can you comprehend that????? And any comparison to myself or to anyone else it totally ludicrous! Again, you lose! Your comments are absurd. You are foolish.


I Lose? (1.00 / 0) (#53)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 06:36:33 PM EST

We'll that is a pleasure with you as the umpire... lol

And I am not putting words in your mouth, you called her a spoiled b*tch. I pointed out that the commonly understood term, both in the court of public opinion and in the shrinks office is someone who has a disproprotionate sense of the relationship of their accomplishments to the attention they are getting and act out because of it. Other's may use the term loosely out of jealousy, or fear that she would be a bad influence on their untalented and lazy children.

And talent is only one part of the formula, and by far the smallest in gaining the kind of success that Lohan has achieved in her 24 years. Hard work, delivering the goods, and ability to work with people are by far the more important qualities one must have in order to reach the level of success Lohan has achieved.

Giving a finger to the judge who is going to put her in jail, does not amount to a spoiled b*tch.. And the sexist stereotype you seem to be relying on is, well sexist.

As far as comparing her achievements to yours or anyone else who would point a finger at her calling her a spoiled b*tch, I do think it is quite apt. Her arrogance is a wonderful thing, particularly age appropriate, and in no way inflated compared to the social and financial status she has achieved.

As far as I am concerned she has earned her right to laugh and flip the bird at you, and those who share your view of her.


Yep, you lose. And you're correct that I'm the (none / 0) (#54)
by Angel on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 07:55:50 PM EST

umpire.

Slang definition of beyotch: someone who is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasant; annoying or whining person.

Your definition is not the norm.


Slang? BS (none / 0) (#56)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 11:18:07 PM EST

The terms "biatch", "beyotch" or similar expression is a slang substitute for "bitch". The term has become widely used in mainstream media to avoid censorship.

Makes sense, a way of saying b*tch without triggering censors, IOW you can use beyotch here at TL without worrying about tripping of law school censor software, I assume...

But redefining it to make believe that it is not a sexist term, is well, quite a stretch..

Generally, the term is still considered offensive, and not accepted in formal situations. According to linguist Deborah Tannen, "Bitch is the most contemptible thing you can say about a woman. Save perhaps the four-letter C word."[8] It's common for the word to be censored on Prime time TV, often rendered as "the b-word." During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a John McCain supporter referred to Hillary Clinton by asking, "How do we beat the bitch?" The event was reported in censored format:[9]

But I am sure you are way cooler and down with street slang, unlike academic Deborah Tannen who teaches at Georgetown. What does she know?


: Not To Mention (none / 0) (#57)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 11:21:49 PM EST

Unlike Hillary where b*tch would rhyme with witch, I am sure your slang usage for Lohan was meant to rhyme with rich.
But somehow slang sanitizes it all and makes the sexism melt away... lol

Yep, .... that's Lindsay ... (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by Yman on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:56:52 PM EST

... defender of American freedoms.


actually she has been (none / 0) (#29)
by Jeralyn on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 12:23:49 AM EST

tweeting about freedom the past few days.

Lohan last night tweeted Article 5 of the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights: 'No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.'

She also tweeted about the Iranian woman sentenced to stoning for adultery. Unless you know her personally, I suggest you not ascribe motives or lack thereof to her. This isn't a gossip column.


Jeralyn - are you serious? (5.00 / 0) (#36)
by Yman on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:03:35 AM EST

"Ascribing motives" is done constantly at TL. I was pointing out that painting "F**k u" on her nails when appearing in court was not a very smart thing to do. "Ascribing motives" came in to play when another poster suggested it was the admirable result of her "anti-authoritarian instincts". LL wasn't tweeting about the stoning of the Iranian woman, the UN Declaration on Human Rights, and the unfair nature of the US Sentencing Guidelines out of the blue. She was doing it the day after she was sentenced to 90 days in jail for violating her probation. IMO, expressing disbelief that LL was motivated by an admirable anti-authoritarian instinct (or a genuine concern for cruel and unusual punishment/human rights) is drawing an inference, not "engaging in gossip".


Questioning Her Motives? (1.00 / 0) (#39)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:40:45 PM EST

Well why do you think she organized a relief concert for Haiti?

What did you do to help the devastated country after the earthquake?

Lohan's f'u was on her fingernails, for gawds sake, not a banner. There was no way anyone in the court could see her subtle gesture of resistance.

And who are you to determine motives for those who do activist work for the downtrodden? The ones pure as you, are mostly sitting home on their computer blogging... Lohan appears to be in a position to actually mobilize change and massive resistance.

She built up that fan base, through talent and hard work. Just because you dislike her, and are morally outraged by her actions, doesn't mitigate the good works she has done and is likely to do in the future.

We need more Lohan's in this world of ours.


Exhibit 1 - Squeaky (5.00 / 0) (#41)
by Yman on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 02:44:49 PM EST

The commenter who originally ascribed positive motives for LL's "FU" fingertips (her admirable "anti-authoritarian instincts"), despite the fact that Lohan herself claims it was just a joke between friends and not a message to the Court. He then goes on to ascribe motives to me which, as usual, are false: "just because you dislike her (I don't) and are morally outraged by her" (I'm not) ...

But at least his last line was funny.


Just Gratuitous Sarcasm? (none / 0) (#47)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 04:15:26 PM EST

He then goes on to ascribe motives to me which, as usual, are false: "just because you dislike her (I don't) and are morally outraged by her" (I'm not) ...

Really?

Yep, .... that's Lindsay ... (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by Yman on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:56:52 PM EST
... defender of American freedoms.

It does not appear to me as if you have anything but contempt for Lohan.


The sarcasm wasn't directed at ... (5.00 / 2) (#48)
by Yman on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 04:22:00 PM EST

... her, but rather the idea that her painting "F**k you" on her fingers was an example of the "basis for keeping freedoms".

But it kinda ruins it when you have to explain it ...


Yes (1.00 / 0) (#58)
by squeaky on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 11:58:35 AM EST

F*k you is a rather unseemly speech for a young woman, or any woman for that matter. What will the children think.

White men on the other hand, are revered as models of valor, courage and fortitude, whenever they express a good "f*k you to power, even when it is subtle and visible only to the public, and not the authorities who are punishing them for misdeeds.

Sexism 101.

We need to protect our women. And if a black person did it, well that would be uppity, insolent and just plain vulgar.


Okay, you caught me (5.00 / 1) (#59)
by Yman on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 01:48:47 PM EST

Questioning the astuteness of painting "F**k you" on your fingernails when appearing in court is actually a secret, coded appeal to all my fellow misogynists and racists out there.

Holy Be-jeezus ...

FYI - Science fiction has to have a kernel of believability to be any good ...


Not Trying to "Catch" Anyone (none / 0) (#60)
by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:03:23 PM EST

What I am trying to do is point out the sexist double standard in our culture for men and women regarding anti-authoritarian gestures.

We all know what the commenters here and elswhere have said about Lohan... so much of it, at least comments elsewhere, seem to be about her behavior being dangerous for teenage girls. She should be more ladylike, show respect for authority.... sugar and spice and all that is nice...

If you look at someone like Rip Torn, who broke into a bank, drunk, cursed at the police, and compare the public sentiment he got to Lohan, you may start to get my point.

Rip Torn has had an amazing, hell-raising life...

and taking offense at his daughters chastisement this:

You never saw Richard Burton or Peter O'Toole get this kind of maudlin guff about their foibles. Mocked sometimes, sure. Denounced, and in other instances winked at, but no one had the temerity to suggest they go to AA. Britain could hardly be said to have a better class of tabloid journalism than ours, but at least it used to know how to treat its drunken [male] actors

Says it all. And if that doesn't make sense to you, perhaps you remember this nursery rhyme:

What are little boys made of?
What are little boys made of?
Frogs and snails
And puppy-dogs' tails,
That's what little boys are made of.
What are little girls made of?
What are little girls made of?
Sugar and spice
And all that's nice,
That's what little girls are made of.

Yup. double standard... Lohan obviously did not get the memo.


Oh, ....... I see ..... (none / 0) (#61)
by Yman on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 07:17:00 PM EST

You weren't suggesting there was a sexist/racist double standard in my comment (i.e. it wasn't smart to paint "F**k U" on her fingernails before a court appearance). You were suggesting these other people making comments "elsewhere" were exhibiting a sexist double standard when criticizing Lohan's conduct while excusing the "anti-authoritarian" conduct of Rip Torn. Glad you clarified.

I don't know. Certainly there those in our society that apply a racist or sexist double-standard when it comes to virtually any kind of conduct, but if you want to suggest those criticizing Lohan are doing this, I guess it depends on whether you're talking about the same people criticizing Lohan while excusing Rip Torn's "anti-authoritarian" conduct, ...

... or you're just comparing different people criticizing Lohan and others defending Torn's conduct, while having no idea whether they are applying a double-standard.

Bet I know which it is ...


Yes (none / 0) (#62)
by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 08:21:04 PM EST

I was most certainly pointing out that you and many others, including myself, often unintentionally perpetuate sexist, racist and bigoted stereotypes that are endemic in our culture.

Considering the it is not unusual for many who are left of center to believe that authority should be challenged, I found it odd that many here were appalled because Lohan did not bend over and take it up the a$$ when she got busted.

While trying to figure out what was going on here, it became clear to me that Lohan was expected to act like a respectable young woman, and she failed big time in the ladylike department. Men, who act like Lohan, get a pass, wink and a nod, unless they are black, well then they are uppity.


: See? Just wished I had some ... (5.00 / 1) (#63)
by Yman on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 08:38:20 PM EST

... money on it.
So you take completely unrelated comments by different people, excusing different "anti-authoritarian" conduct, read between the invisible lines, lump them all together, and then claim I'm perpetuating sexist stereotypes by pointing out the obvious - that painting "F**k U" on your fingernails before a court appearance is not a smart thing to do.
BTW - Maybe you should just try speaking for yourself for a change. Although, I have to admit, when you try doing it for others, ...
... the results are pretty damn funny.

Anti-authority instinct - (none / 0) (#25)
by Natal on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 09:49:26 PM EST

just like the Tea Party people preserving our freedoms?


: Wow (1.00 / 0) (#34)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:24:53 AM EST

The teaparty is mainstream GOP and their lockstep love of authority is about as far as you can get from Lohan.
Is it because Lohan supported Obama that you seem to loathe her?
Or because your puritanical instincts shudder at the notion of her resurrecting Linda Lovelace aka deep throat.

One F-U... (none / 0) (#38)
by kdog on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:23:04 PM EST

certainly deserves another:)

But I read in today's paper she claims her choice in nail art had nothing to do with the court proceedings, fwiw.

Getting a kick out of it leading to possible contempt of court charges. How could one not have contempt for these courts of ours?


Well (none / 0) (#40)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:42:52 PM EST

She is apparently not stupid. You can decide what the fingernail paint meant, she does not have to broadcast it to the news media. The gesture was done, and as I said, I would no be surprised if a photographer was tipped off to check out her nails with a telephoto...


: I hope it was for the judge... (none / 0) (#42)
by kdog on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 02:58:56 PM EST

the dishonorable one earned it.
And as for her twittering about human rights and cruel punishment...sometimes it takes the chain and cage treatment to wake you up to all the inhumanity of "civilized" criminal justice...I know it was my wake up call. Good for her for speaking out.

What authority does the judge have (none / 0) (#1)
by Peter G on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 06:40:57 PM EST

in California to modify the sentence, if she is so inclined, after the defendant begins to serve it?

Time off for good behavior (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by MKS on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:10:53 PM EST

varies I think from County to County in California. She may only have to serve 45 days actually.

But that is pretty tough for a DUI.

The standard in California is no time for a first DUI and no more than 60 days for a second DUI....She got 90 days....plus 90 days of in-patient treatment. She will not be free for half a year....

They are trying to get her off of drugs and alcohol......But, she hasn't driven while under the influence again.....

If the State is going to go to such efforts to make Lohan clean and sober, then let's look at broader society and how we deal with drugs and alcohol.....I have no doubt the prosecutor, and probably the judge, will most likely imbibe alcohol during the next 180 days or so....

There is a certain amount of hypocrisy here--and getting extra tough on celebrities when the case gets a lot of press.

Her sentence was only based on missing DUI classes, even though the course administrator did not so inform the court--that tends to support Lohan's view that the school was okay with her schedule, that she was in compliance, that she had excused absences because of her schedule.


Wasn't she (none / 0) (#5)
by jbindc on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:15:49 PM EST

technically sentenced for the probation violation of not attending her classes for her DUI? I mean, she didn't miss one or two classes - she missed 9 of them, right?


True, but (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by MKS on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:23:35 PM EST

the DUI school did not complain....And, the DUI schools allow for a certain amount of absences....Being sick, traffic causing you to not be on time, being out of town for work, etc....

Clearly, it was not the absences....it was the other stuff--I don't believe the judge sentenced her to in essence half a year based only on missing classes that were not significant enough for the school to notify the court about....

The biggest violation--missing court. The FTAs tick off judges to no end. They do take it very personally--and yeah, yeah, I know the whole rationale about flouting society's rules, etc--but it is when you challenge the judge's authority that you most get into trouble....That is what did Paris Hilton in....


The school was part of her problem (none / 0) (#11)
by waldenpond on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 08:38:05 PM EST

IMO. The defense claimed they would be happy to have the program testimony as the report was positive. But on questioning, it didn't look as clear cut. The program is so loosy-goosy, they gave her advice in contrast to the judges orders. It was silly to excuse her to go to a 'fundraiser' (party) There was even a phone call with the program so someone somewhere felt the looseness was going to be an issue.


If her conditions of probation included (none / 0) (#14)
by oculus on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 11:52:48 PM EST

successfully completing the school, it's between her and the court, not her and the school. The school is unlikely to tell the court--where's the inducement for others to choose that particular school?


: Who is the real client? (none / 0) (#45)
by MKS on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 03:15:26 PM EST

The court or the student?....Sure, the student can pick among schools, although there is not much competition within a single geographic area.
The DUI Schools need to keep the Court happy or they come off of the approved list--and lose all their business. A couple of miffed students is no big deal.
The Schools are in effect acting as probation officers....Most are really tough because they do not want to lose their status with the court....

She missed 7 or 9 of 27 (none / 0) (#28)
by Jeralyn on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 12:20:35 AM EST

and was on track to finish on time. Her lawyer said she thought she could take more than one a week and didn't realize she wouldn't get credit for more than one per week.


: 9 out of 27 (none / 0) (#46)
by jbindc on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 03:34:31 PM EST

Is missing 33% of the classes - which doesn't allow you to pass a 2nd grade spelling test, let alone a judge's order.
Seems her lawyer should have given her better advice if she truly thought she could go to class whenever.

My knowledge of the case comes (none / 0) (#6)
by observed on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:22:00 PM EST

almost entirely from TMZ, so while I feel well-informed, I'm probably not.
Agree about the getting tough on celebs statement.
Also, I think jail is the wrong sentence for DUI by itself. I favor more permanent taking away of licenses, less jail.


Credits are a matter of CA state law. (none / 0) (#31)
by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 12:59:29 AM EST

That appears to be 2 for 1 (none / 0) (#44)
by MKS on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 03:10:31 PM EST

But overcrowding apparently reduces time served too, as inidcated in this article:

Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said department officials could not say exactly how much time Lohan would serve but noted that most nonviolent female offenders serve one-quarter or less of their sentences. That calculation is based on factors that include credit for good behavior and crowd levels when she shows up for jail.

So, overcrowing is less in some Counties than others.....Thus, Lohan will most likely have her sentence reduced by more than the 1/3 for good behavior....which would not be the case in other counties.


: True. A local (Sheriff's Department) decision. (none / 0) (#55)
by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 10:33:56 PM EST

Not good time credits.

Peter, I assumed California (none / 0) (#18)
by Jeralyn on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 01:33:30 AM EST

has a "Rule 35" like most states. A typical one:

(b) Reduction of Sentence. The court, on its own initiative or on motion of the defendant, may reduce a sentence within 90 days after the sentence is imposed, or within 90 days after entry of any order or judgment of the Supreme Court upholding a judgment of conviction. The court may also reduce a sentence upon revocation of probation as provided by law. Changing a sentence from a sentence of incarceration to a grant of probation shall constitute a permissible reduction of sentence under this subdivision.

If CA has such a rule, the judge could change 90 days to say, 30 days. But it's possible California doesn't have such a rule, I really don't know.


: California Penal Code section (none / 0) (#32)
by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:07:19 AM EST

1203.2: link

I want to feel sympathy for her (none / 0) (#2)
by scribe on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 07:04:20 PM EST

but just can't. She made a plea deal and didn't live up to it. I understand and accept that she's probably got addiction issues and that makes living up to a probation sentence even harder, and that that indicates such a deal might not have been the "best" deal out there in terms of keeping her out of custody given the likelihood of her failing to live up to it.

But she had the best representation gettable, and her lawyers doubtless laid it out all in detail. Maybe she thought she could get away with whatever she wanted regardless of anything because she's ... Lindsay Lohan!

She showed a lot of talent in her early career. Maybe she'll get her act together and pull a Robert Downey Jr. and make a career after going to jail. Maybe not. But it's on her now.

: I feel bad for her (none / 0) (#9)
by blandroid on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 08:16:04 PM EST

She might have the most narcissistic, fame-whoring parents around. It's no wonder she has the issues she does; hopefully she'll get serious about addressing them some day.

Wouldn't 180 days inpatient rehab (none / 0) (#8)
by BackFromOhio on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 08:14:43 PM EST

be a better solution? She's been unable to shake the addiction in the past. My understanding is that addicts can take shorter term forced abstinence because they know that the substance is only XX days away.

IMO, she's an extraordinarily talented actress - reference Georgia Rule - Even Jane Fonda called Lohan brilliant in that movie -- whose career could well be derailed if she doesn't get substance abuse issues under control.

This may sound way out there - (none / 0) (#10)
by Untold Story on Tue Jul 06, 2010 at 08:26:02 PM EST

Don't think either jail or rehab will help her. Think she suffers from low self esteem and needs some confidence building skills, such as, meaningful community work, a project of some kind, while living in a disciplined environment. She needs to be able to get in touch with herself, her inner self - it is there and only she can find it. Nature, animals, children are all means by which we can learn to develop her inner self - and on that she can build.

Just my opinion.

The inner self (none / 0) (#15)
by Natal on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 12:06:05 AM EST

can be attained with the proper meditation technique. There is truth to "the kingdom of heaven is within". Many try to find self-discovery in the outer world when it actually can be found within. Everyone has that deep unbounded self within. It's my experience.


: A bud that has never blossomed (none / 0) (#37)
by Untold Story on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 11:24:02 AM EST

from within - inside of this lovely young lady is a little girl - lost - preventing maturity. So many of the child actors experience this same syndrome.
Just my opinion.

I feel happy for Lindsay (none / 0) (#17)
by Makarov on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 01:21:37 AM EST

She obviously has a problem with alcohol, and perhaps other drugs. Perhaps this stiff sentence is what she needs to begin to recognize that and deal with it.

I'm more inclined to think rehab is more beneficial than time in the county jail, but this will provide an important life lesson for her - that when a judge orders you do something you do it.

Here's hoping the rehab she attends isn't the one in Malibu ('Promises'?) she was in previously as obviously their methodology didn't take.

Seems to me... (none / 0) (#19)
by kdog on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 08:26:52 AM EST

the judge is handing out cage time over taking personal offense for the FTA's...that's not cool or righteous.

Lindsay Lohan needs a cage like we need holes in our heads...I mean no one is saying she has driven while intoxicated or stoned since 2007 right? And who cares about some stupid court-mandated classes that people only sleep through anyway?

She may need help, she may not...her addictions, if any, are her business. Don't see how a cage helps her any regardless, in fact it might lead to her running for the shelter of her starlet's little helpers even more.

: haha (none / 0) (#20)
by AlkalineDave on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 08:31:58 AM EST

without time to reply to anything this line had me laughing:
And who cares about some stupid court-mandated classes that people only sleep through anyway?

Hilarious kdog

Painting "F**k U" ... (none / 0) (#22)
by Yman on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 04:58:27 PM EST

... on her fingernails probably wasn't the smartest move.

Reduction not forth coming (none / 0) (#23)
by waldenpond on Wed Jul 07, 2010 at 05:50:49 PM EST

Yup, I doubt the judge is working on a reduction as we type. :)

She's 24 but acts like she's 15. Apparently she shows up blotto on her probation reports ... prescriptions.


: I find it outrageous that (5.00 / 2) (#30)
by Jeralyn on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 12:25:08 AM EST

her probation report was leaked to the press. Think how you would feel if that happened to you. Only the Judge, prosecutor and defense should see it.

Usually a retained attorney will (none / 0) (#33)
by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 01:11:44 AM EST

work hard to find an appropriate in patient program prior to imposition of sentence/grant of probation. Sometimes defendant is already enrolled and may have successfully completed the program. Looks good. Maybe not possible w/this particular defendant.

Just heard. . . (none / 0) (#50)
by Untold Story on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 05:54:45 PM EST

she either fired her attorney, or her attorney quit -

She had an excellent attorney. She could well be a difficult client as she isn't mature enough to realize the need to take advice of a well-seasoned attorney, rather than the 'yes' people in her camp.

: Well (none / 0) (#51)
by squeaky on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 06:06:34 PM EST

It is not clear why her attorney quit... yet.