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Paladino Attacks Gays in Speech

By Jeralyn, Section Elections
Posted on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:09:40 PM EST
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No amount of tea partiers can save Carl Paladino from himself. Now he's attacking gays.

The Republican candidate for governor, Carl P. Paladino, told a gathering in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Sunday that children should not be “brainwashed” into thinking that homosexuality was acceptable, and criticized his opponent, Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, for marching in a gay pride parade earlier this year.

The polls had him losing before this. Four more weeks and he will fade back into the obscurity from which he sprang.

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    Paladino Attacks Gays in Speech | 26 comments (26 topical)

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    According to Michael Caputo, (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 09:39:10 AM EST
    Paladino's campaign manager,  Paladino is not antigay noting that he employed a gay man on his campaign staff (probably finds him to be a god-send with  his TV makeup).  Moreover, Caputo said, "Carl Paladino is simply expressing the views that he holds in his heart as a Catholic." "Carl Paladino is not homophobic, and neither is the Catholic Church."  

    Republicans sure have a crop this cycle: a  "history buff" goose-stepping for Congress, another denying that she is a witch, a senatorial candidate running against the  Sharia law takeovers in Texas and Michigan, and  a family values guy hoping everyone forgets his diaper-entreaties with  Bourbon Street hookers. Now we see  a gubernatorial candidate who we can bank on to  keep the NYC St. Patrick Day parade safe from the gay and who will assure equality in keeping with the theology of Pope Benedict.

    "In his heart as a Catholic" (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 02:46:22 PM EST
    Oh, please .....

    I usually could care less about a candidate's personal life, but if Paladino wants to hide behind his religion, someone should ask Caputo whether emailing racist/porn videos and having children with women outside his marriage are consistent with the "views he holds in his heart as a Catholic".

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    What a jerk (none / 0) (#1)
    by kdm251 on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:20:48 PM EST
    I wonder what makes the tea par tiers so angry? It almost seems like a mental illness

    Exactly my thoughts (none / 0) (#9)
    by ruffian on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 07:47:10 AM EST
    Yeah, Carl, kids are really "brainwashed" into thinking homosexuality is acceptable. So "brainwashed" they are jumping off bridges out of shame.

    What a horrible thing to say. These people are sick.

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    MIchael (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:22:57 PM EST
    has a good response.

    IMO, this is the very definition of hate speech.

    BTW, making lemonade out of this (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 11:58:51 PM EST
    Paladino may have just saved several Democratic House seats in the suburbs (in particular, I'm thinking of John Hall).

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    that's my old 'hood (none / 0) (#3)
    by nycstray on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:33:21 PM EST
    he should just . . . .  stay. away.

    I made a joke comparing Paladino to Jesse Ventura (none / 0) (#4)
    by jawbone on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:59:38 PM EST
    I was way off the mark.

    Paladino must not be allowed near power to affect people's lives.  Will he forward his emails to the entire electorate?

    His comments were certainly imprudent,, (none / 0) (#6)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 12:38:47 AM EST
    however the results you speak of aren't necessarily going to come to pass.

    He really botched up expressing a point of view that a lot of people have which is that crime is always crime, and hurting anyone is bad and should not be tolerated, but that it is dangerous and generally will not be tolerated in America to let the school system, which certainly can be called dysfunctional in itself, start indoctrinating children on sexual mores, on what is good and what is bad.

    Again, he really messed up with his wording, but again we will have to wait and see what the results are.

    Schools do this all the time (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 08:19:27 AM EST
    it is dangerous and generally will not be tolerated in America to let the school system, which certainly can be called dysfunctional in itself, start indoctrinating children on sexual mores, on what is good and what is bad.

    It's not about "indoctrinating" children re: "sexual mores" - it's about teaching kids tolerance and respect for those that are different from themselves.  Most schools have been doing this for decades with regard to race, disabilities, etc.  More generally, they've also been teaching "what is good and what is bad" for many years (i.e. following the rules, conflict resolution, character education, respecting classmates, etc.).  Most people would probably agree this should be primarily a parental function, but in many cases, it either isn't happening, it needs reinforcement, or (in some cases) the parent is actually doing harm.

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    So (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 12:47:53 AM EST
    "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever?

    After all, schools clearly shouldn't be indoctrinating students on racial mores.

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    andgard, I don't see the pertinence (none / 0) (#8)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 02:26:58 AM EST
    of your remark about segregation and racial mores.

    I don't think the candidate expressed a desire to put non-straights in separate schools, separate classrooms or in certain designated areas (like the back row) within the classroom or on school buses.

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    It is impossible to be neutral (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by andgarden on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 08:35:07 AM EST
    on the question of tolerance.

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    Does not matter (none / 0) (#10)
    by the capstan on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 07:55:45 AM EST
    if Paladino did not suggest it.  The 'regular' kids will think of it themselves--segregating the gay ones (that survive).  Actually, in company of that sort, self-segregation might be a good option.

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    Eventually, the crazy comes out, (none / 0) (#12)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 08:23:55 AM EST
    I guess; better now than later.

    I really just do not get it, that there are still people who think one's orientation is an option, and who see the school system teaching that we need to accept each other for who and what we are as "brainwashing."

    I do get that people like Palladino don't see themselves as bigots, but that's about all I get about people like him.

    Doesn't say much for Isarel either (none / 0) (#14)
    by Saul on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 08:43:52 AM EST
    I saw the tape where Paladino was talking his gay bashing.  Looks like is audience were predominately Hasedic Jews, who applauded him several times as he blasted the gays.

    This has what to do with Israel? (5.00 / 4) (#15)
    by andgarden on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 09:04:23 AM EST


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    No apologies (none / 0) (#17)
    by Saul on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 12:57:12 PM EST
    from local Jewish foundations and none coming from Israel either. He gave this speech to a Jewish audience.  He was applauded by the Jews present for his gay bashing.

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    This doesn't answer my question--at all (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by andgarden on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:13:09 PM EST
    Unless you mean to imply that Jews = Israel, which is obviously false.

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    Hasedic Jews in U.S vs Israel (none / 0) (#22)
    by Saul on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:26:44 PM EST
    Do you think they are different as they expressed with Paldino.  If not should not Isarel say this groups does not represent what the majority of Jews in Isarel believe in.  Failure to condemn is to support.

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    They're probably consulting (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by andgarden on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:38:02 PM EST
    the Elders of Zion first.

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    Hasids (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by squeaky on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:49:47 PM EST
    Half of US Hasids do not recognize Israel because the Messiah has not come yet.

    US Jews do not in any way represent Israel. Of course, it is true that many US jew feel a connection to Israel, but certainly no where near all of us.

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    Maybe the Pope, Italy and (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by MO Blue on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:19:56 PM EST
    all Catholic foundations here and abroad should apologize for Paladino's remarks. Paladino credits his Catholic faith for his viewpoint so it would be very appropriate according to your criteria for all Catholic entities to share the blame for his remarks.

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    Isn't that kind of like (none / 0) (#19)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:14:12 PM EST
    expecting Moveon or the President to issue a statement apologizing for the behavior of the Tea Partiers, the John Birch Society and Fred Phelps?

    It shouldn't exactly be news at this point that politically conservative Jews triangulate with reactionary fundamentalists, anymore than that it's news that U.S conservatives are dead in the water without the Rapture or Bust crowd..

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    If you think right wing Hasidic Jews represent (none / 0) (#21)
    by shoephone on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 01:25:17 PM EST
    all, or even a majority of American Jewry, well, I've got a ___ to sell you in ___.  Just fill in the blanks, because, really, your comment is silly to the nth degree.

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    Dov Hikind (none / 0) (#26)
    by daring grace on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 07:00:03 PM EST
    I loved the assemblyman's take on Paladino long before this particular speech. He called Paladino out on his attempts to polarize the electorate in typical (satisfying) NY succinct-ness:

    'Is He Out Of His Freakin' Mind?'

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